advice Idiot Newbie Domainer Registers VacatoinRental.com! Help!

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 5, 2016

adsorbable · Feb 9, 2016

If you're completely set on investing some time into the domain then just do it

Honestly.. you've paid the reg fee already so you might as well at least try to get some cash out of it. Sure, you might not get $xxx,xxx
for it but that doesn't mean that its a loss. It would take you 30 min or less to either set up a Wordpress blog with some basic info (add adsense for CPC) or just use any vacation related affiliate offer. Booking.com pays an average of $15 per paid reservation and its pretty easy to get in with an affiliate program that has their offers included.

Worst case scenario you can just forward the domain to the affiliate offer and hope that you will receive one sale throughout the year (doubling your investment)

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 9, 2016

adsorbable said:
If you're completely set on investing some time into the domain then just do it Honestly.. you've paid the reg fee already so you might as well at least try to get some cash out of it. Sure, you might not get $xxx,xxx
for it but that doesn't mean that its a loss. It would take you 30 min or less to either set up a Wordpress blog with some basic info (add adsense for CPC) or just use any vacation related affiliate offer. Booking.com pays an average of $15 per paid reservation and its pretty easy to get in with an affiliate program that has their offers included.

Worst case scenario you can just forward the domain to the affiliate offer and hope that you will receive one sale throughout the year (doubling your investment)

BINGO!! We have a WINNER! Thanks Bro! See that? I knew there had to be SOME Positive people on NP. No offense everyone else who commented.

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 9, 2016

DomainVP said:
Some people learn better through visual stimulation...

smartass! lol

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 9, 2016

jlwhite405 said:
What about people from Virginia "VA" who need to rent a "Catoin"? :P:P

Cation? lol

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 10, 2016

decades80 said:
The others were correct. Mortage.com is a misspelled domain, 1 word, 7 characters and High CPC. Your domain is a "random" typo, 2 words and low CPC. We all think you found a pyrite instead of gold...

so....I should register Vacatoin.com? lol from what you are saying you have issue with the length. okay! so what if I had gotten Vacatoin.com is there value then?\

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 10, 2016

well wuddyakno!!! Check this one out!

https://who.is/whois/vacatoin.com

Domain Name: vacatoin.com
Registry Domain ID: 17250253_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.markmonitor.com
Registrar URL: http://www.markmonitor.com
Updated Date: 2015-05-19T12:54:57-0700
Creation Date: 2000-01-11T09:42:29-0800
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-06-01T04:59:59-0700
Registrar: MarkMonitor, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 292
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:

@markmonitor.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.2083895740
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited (https://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited)
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited (https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited)
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited (https://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited)
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Host Master
Registrant Organization: Travel Leaders Group, LLC
Registrant Street: 3033 Campus Drive,
Registrant City: Plymouth
Registrant State/Province: MN
Registrant Postal Code: 55441
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.7637443700
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8662948936
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:

@travelleaders.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Host Master
Admin Organization: Travel Leaders Group, LLC
Admin Street: 3033 Campus Drive,
Admin City: Plymouth
Admin State/Province: MN
Admin Postal Code: 55441
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.7637443700
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.8662948936
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:

@travelleaders.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Host Master
Tech Organization: Travel Leaders Group, LLC
Tech Street: 3033 Campus Drive,
Tech City: Plymouth
Tech State/Province: MN
Tech Postal Code: 55441
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.7637443700
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.8662948936
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:

@travelleaders.com
Name Server: ns2.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns4.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns5.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns7.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns6.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns1.markmonitor.com
Name Server: ns3.markmonitor.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-02-09T16:04:31-0800 <<<

oh we DEFINITELY NEED to discuss this NOW! ok ok so let's hear someone comment on this GEM of a FIND. as we can see here. VACATOIN.COM has been registered since 2000!

What the hell would TravelLeaders.com register such "garbage" (being sarcastic here lol). Damn! they must be idiots! or perhaps they believe in Vacatoin.com?

Let's discuss!

james haw · Feb 11, 2016

My intention here is not to piss upon your fire, however when money is concerned, advice should be given seriously, and taken as such

Avtar629 said:
diamond in the rough maybe? I think so.

"I think so" is more accurately "I dream it's so".
Just like all new domainers, and I truly include myself a little bit (although without the "excitement" :D):

Avtar629 said:
I'm just trying to stay positive.

Positive is good when trying to stay happy, and focused, but that alone does not make a business or a deal.

In a commercial market place of any kind, there is a huge difference between "positive" and "realistic". "Positive" is purely hopeful, and hopeful never set up any decent business or made a great sale. You may be hopeful and do those things, and it might help, but it was something else which made it work - drive, knowledge, hard work, etc.

"Realistic" on the other hand is studying the market trends, looking at sales in general, and not just looking at sales similar to your domain and building up a case why you believe (hope) yours is worth money too. there are so many parameters in a domain name value, and "similar" is a word you should avoid using (for now).

You might sell your domain name tomorrow for $5,000, you might never sell it, you might sell it in a year for that, or $50, or $50,000. The market can be volatile and bizarre, especially with "quirky" names such as yours, but it's very important to understand that in general the market is fairly obvious!

For example, if you owned "VacationRental.com" everyone here would be telling you it's worth a lot of money, as it's clear. With incorrectly spelled names you not only have to find an end user within that domain's niche, but also a very specific one who is ok with a misspelling. so your market potential is very, very low. This alone does not mean a domain is not worth a lot, but without premium keywords it does (or without real words etc).

Typos are something incorrectly spelt but are typed a lot anyway, misspellings are just wrongly spelled and not typed much and so of no value.

"Mortage" is a very common typo, so people search and put it in their URL bar all the time, this makes it valuable. That is the same for any typo which is misspelled a lot and is a premium keyword!

fidlesticks.com ( a misspelling with only one "d") is worthless as no one types it, and "Fiddlesticks" is not premium like "mortgage" is.

Avtar629 said:
well wuddyakno!!! Check this one out!

Ok what do you have?

Avtar629 said:
oh we DEFINITELY NEED to discuss this NOW!

Hmm ok, sounds intriguing!

Avtar629 said:
ok ok so let's hear someone comment on this GEM of a FIND.

Yes, yes, what is it, we're on tenterhooks!

Avtar629 said:
as we can see here. It has been registered since 2000!

Yes, ok, a domain regged for 16 years can be very valuable...reading on...in anticipation...

Avtar629 said:
What the hell would TravelLeaders.com register such "garbage" (being sarcastic here lol). Damn! they must be idiots! or perhaps they believe in Vacatoin.com?

Let's discuss!

Sigh.

Ok, so someone in 2000 registered
Casino.com
It's worth mega bucks! Millions!!

Someone else in 2000 registered:
MyMumsNoneExistentLeftKnacker.com

Yes, yes, it's 16 years old... Oh wait....

Please, lose the excitement a little bit. Domain investing is a business, it needs experience, knowledge, and time and patience.

There are 7 billion people on the planet, and if it was so simple don't you think everyone else would be doing it? Just like the "Make $10,000 a week working from home only 2 hours a week" are utter bullpat, so is "I will get rich quick selling domains - look at all these gems none of these wise and studious business folks have seen. Who cares they have been selling names for years and know their shit, I know better because I am new to all this and they've just been hammering away hours a day trying to sell decent names and all this time they should have just bought this obvious name that anyone in the world could have thought of..."

Honestly, don't buy another name until you read for 1 month. Please

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 11, 2016

all that blah blah but skirted around the FACT that a company not a TINY at that CHOSE keep registering Vacatoin.com I mean I know it's cheap to reg and it's peanuts to them but why bother if as you all say it's crap? just like you guys are all telling me I should just forget it my domain is crap. yet here we have a perfect example of a company benefiting from a "typo" domain. Can someone explain that since this person obvious wanted to just dance around that FACT? hmmmm he wanted to DANCE around it because he's just to want poo poo on the newbie. ummm It's been UNDERSTOOD even since the beginning that I made a mistake on this domain as per the plenty of advice on here.

It's almost like SOMEONE got offended when I simply mentioned the FACT the a company has owned and benefiting from Vacatoin.com a TYPO domain. which leads to the next logical assumption and yes I said assumption that perhaps there's someone else out there who might see the value of say VacatoinRental.com especially if they can see that someone is "benefiting" from owning and using Vacatoin.com?

how is that any different from when any one of you guys on here use another website as a "promo" or a "convincing" sales pitch.

FACT is.
Vacatoin.com is owned by Travel Leaders Group, LLC
VacatoinRentals.com is owned by HomeAway which owns VacationRentals.com

VacatoinRental.com was owned by Netcorp, Net. since 2006 and expired in 2009
I will also say that vacatoinrentals.com was reg prior to that on 2004.

so for 3 years vacatoinrental.com was owned by netcorp. why they didn't get shutdown with a urdp complaint makes one wonder. I don't know the answer maybe someone else does.

for whatever reason I don't know they let it go fine. and probably because it wasn't worth it to them. or poor management. we can't ever really know unless we ask them and I probably will. most likely they were sent a URDP complaint. yet I don't see a trademark for Vacatoin Rental. although Vacation Rentals trademark would cover misspellings. Can anyone comment?

So that's all I can go by. Don't know why vacation rentals didn't snatch this one up for the heck of it. maybe they felt all they needed was just VacatoinRentals.com or felt their trademark protected them.

or maybe netcorp tried to sell them the domain with no interest. who knows?

ehhh either way Cheapdomains.com has my $9.17 so might as well make use of it.

Keep it coming folks. love to hear everyone's input.

WhoaDomain.com · Feb 11, 2016

oh by the way? is there a way to figure out which version of misspellings happen most often? like you've just said that Mortage is a common misspelling. how does everyone come to that conclusion? I'm guessing someone will tell me to look thru Google's Adwords PPC statistics?

gustave · Feb 11, 2016

Jesus all that for 8$. Just move on and forget that domain, it's worth 0, will bring maybe 2-3 visitors per month if you're lucky, and you won't make 1$ with wordpress theme and generated content! What kind of ads you gonna put on that? Adsense doesnt want those kind of shitty useless websites, you might just end Adsense banned. You're just gonna lose more time. Learn and move on it's just 8$. Don't stay positive with that shit domain, it's gonna make you lose even more time, it's shit, move on. Trust me I run a website for a living and it takes a lot of traffic to make $. Grace delete if you still can or go ahead, stay positive and lose even more.

Joe N · Feb 11, 2016

Had a quick look on Keyword Planner. "Vacatoin Rental" gets about 10 exact match searches per month.

Joe N · Feb 12, 2016

For comparison... "Mortage" gets about 15K searches.

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