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What do you mean?progpt.com sells for $5k,
while someone else has to rename his site?!
something does not add up here,...
In some cases they are targeting the domains users but not the sellers .progpt.com sells for $5k,
while someone else has to rename his site?!
something does not add up here,...
I think it will be approved."I doubt that OpenAI's recent application seeking to trademark "GPT" will be approved.
Maybe specific models/products, but not just "GPT" by itself...
To be able to register a trademark in the U.S., the applicant has to show that the proposed trademark is in fact "distinctive" of their company.
The more generic a term is in its field, whether to begin with (i.e., by not becoming distinctive in the first place...), or over time (i.e., by failing to maintain its distinctiveness),
the less likely it is to be registerable.
And, such "distinctiveness" is notably harder to achieve and/or maintain for terms that are more generic/descriptive rather than truly unique…
In the case of "GPT," in the context of software (specifically A.I.), those letters -- particularly in that combination -- are understood to stand for things that refer to a kind of A.I. language model having certain characteristics, even though OpenAI was first to produce a (g)enerative (p)retrained (t)ransformer and they're still the most notable provider of such technologies."
source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35376877
The term 'transformer' is by the way a wide-spread term for a neural network architecture for language understanding,
invented in 2017.
https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/08/transformer-novel-neural-network.html
I think it will be approved.
The only reason the term "GPT" is synonymous with AI is because of their usage.
https://domaingang.com/domain-law/o...ist-letters-to-providers-of-chatgpt-services/
Brad
Demand for gpt domains is still high, as the usage of gpt might be possible in future.What do you mean?
Sure, "GPT" itself can mean anything. I doubt OpenAI has an issue with "Green Portable Toilets".The term "transformer" is a wide spread term at google.
That would mean that gpt occupies this term?
- which it cannot.
Besides that, gpt is a very generic abbreviation.
Open ai was a little late, claiming the term solely for itself,although "open" ai is supposed to be a non profit organization
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Just a question, How can they enforce something that is not approved as of yet?
They can't, but they can certainly try.Just a question, How can they enforce something that is not approved as of yet?
A registered TM would just make their case that much stronger, but it is not required.Just a question, How can they enforce something that is not approved as of yet?
As far as I am concerned about TM:
If a company like Bloomberg is able to register BloombergGPT legally,
there is nothing that stays in the way for other word + GPT brands / names.
Bloomberg will forever be used as precedent.
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The value in Bloomberg's domain is the "Bloomberg" part. That is their brand.Great take.
Bloomberg Finance has millions to fight Open AI on the trademark issue around what is a generic term - GPT.
There are too many well funded corporations with pending (term+GPT) trademarks.
The time for Open AI to make their move was in 2022.
Any attempt to monopolize GPT by Open AI will be met with years long litigation from equally rich corporations. GPT = generic term at this juncture and I'm betting USPTO agrees.
I think it will be approved.
The only reason the term "GPT" is synonymous with AI is because of their usage.
https://domaingang.com/domain-law/o...ist-letters-to-providers-of-chatgpt-services/
Brad
That's fine.I don't think Open AI gets an exclusive TM approval over GPT.
There are dozens of filings from corporations with millions to ensure its an expensive fight to monopolize GPT.
At best, OPEN AI may get a narrowly defined supplemental mark. Yet, I don't even think that will happen, lets not forget a TM application has an OPPOSITION window for a reason.
You can bet Bloomberg Finance and others will argue GPT is generic at this juncture and in wide spread usage by other corporations as others have shared.
Many are speaking as IP experts or as Trademark Office experts, but nobody knows what will happen until it happens.
The value in Bloomberg's domain is the "Bloomberg" part. That is their brand.
They could be BloombergAI.com or anything else and it would probably not make much of a difference to them.
Brad
Here's some history.At the same time it is simply acknowledging reality that "GPT" is only popular in the AI field because of OpenAI's usage. It is not some term like "AI" that has generations of usage.
That's fine.
At the same time it is simply acknowledging reality that "GPT" is only popular in the AI field because of OpenAI's usage. It is not some term like "AI" that has generations of usage.
I think they have a strong claim to the term personally.
Brad
Yeah, their usage goes back to 2018.OpenAI certainly has a strong claim.
This is a great case for domainers to study and follow.
Already OpenAI has filed a UDRP in March, so we can expect some decision on that filing by July.
I'd expect no matter the outcome in the UDRP case, the loser will file and appeal to the Courts - as they should.
Very interesting to observe this GPT trend.
Yeah, their usage goes back to 2018.
First used in commerce date matters more than their TM registration IMO.
They have had multiple generations, the common link being every version used the "GPT" term.
The problem at this point is OpenAI has not made it clear what their view on the "GPT" term is.
The recent C&D only leads to more uncertainty.
Brad