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It seems to me that there is a lack of creativity in domain name creation.

I sense that there is a fixation/obsession with keywords so that the domain will appeal to Google, a private company that is an effective monopoly and seems to do whatever it likes. Remember when Google were upstarts and said “Don’t be evil” - well, they have become what they once despised.
This happens with many challengers to the status quo, in that once they begin to grow, they can soon become the status quo and act in ways that they used to criticize/despise others. Apple is another such company, and as much as I like their products (except their poor Mail program), approaching $3 trillion in revenue hampers your ability to being a challenger, an innovator, fresh.
Perhaps if Steve and Jony were still there, Apple could still have those attributes.

But I digress.

I haven’t ever focused on creating domains based on keywords. It just seems that the keyword space is so overcrowded that getting noticed becomes harder and harder over time. I also don’t really understand this space, having not explored it and I also take exception to being at the mercy of the evil G, who behave as judge, jury & executioner, to say the least of their antics.

Looking at the some of the recently created internet companies (last 15 years or so), there are many two word company names made up of dictionary words, but a good number are names that are not real words and their names are just made up.
This is the area I have focused on for the past 10+ years and I have been surprised at how many names have been available that I have come up with. Over the last few years, I have added over 200 names to my portfolio and I am coming up with name ideas all the time. Although not all my name ideas become names I register.

I don’t expect many of my names to appeal to lots of people or that they will sell for eyebrow raising amounts. But like all seller/buyer scenarios, it only takes one person to like a name I have created and like it enough to want to buy it. Given the population of internet users, which is always growing and that useful domain names are becoming increasingly rarer, I think that won’t be hard to achieve.

I usually come up with names by something I see or hear, sometimes swapping letters around or adding 1-2 letters, sometimes replacing letters. I have also “discovered” names, serendipitously, by making typos when I’ve been typing something, like an email or a url. It is surprising to me how often this happens and I am stopped in my working flow. I pause for a while and think about what is on the screen. Sometimes, its nothing or really just junk, but sometimes it looks and sounds great to me.

Usually, I need to like how the domain sounds and if it passes the “radio test”. I also have to be able to see what market the name might address or appeal to and whether that market is immature/mature and/or overcrowded and/or populated by upstarts. Domain names are very low cost, but if you register many iffy names or names with fringe appeal, the costs add up.
I check the visitor figures for each of my domains as they are coming up for renewal and take a decision on whether to renew or let them expire. I don’t let many go.

I tend to focus on 5-8 letter domains (4 letter domains are almost all taken up, the worthwhile ones that is, but I don’t spend any time searching just for these), but I might go beyond 8 letters if the name sounds very good to me.

I do have some domains that are real words, including people’s names, but this is less than 5% of my portfolio.

If you have approached domain name creation in ways other than by using keywords, perhaps you’d like to share your method or comment on mine.
 
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The math does not work out if you hand reg at $10 and sell for $500 @ 1-2%.

You'll breakeven at best and more likely lose money.

"Creativity" and "making money as a domain investor" rarely go hand in hand.

There are exceptions such as Sten who have a knack for coming up with names that will sell. But most people don't have this skillset. Just look at all the names for sale here on the forum. 99% are complete garbage.

Focus on keywords that business owners consistently use to name their businesses and you will do well.

That's why you gotta work on your STR. You can either sell little with a high margin and low STR or sell a lot with a small margin and very high STR. Both solid business strategies.

I like a mix of both.
 
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"Great" can be quite subjective. Gotta look for "decent" or "ok" names and market them as being just that and keep your STR up.

It takes time, it takes effort though.

Gotta balance out your portfolio as well. Good mix of liquids, oneworders. Com net org and matured cctlds.

Regarding the STR... Lower tier portfolios definitely need a much higher STR than that 1-2%, if you've got the skills to pull it off.

Just saying, don't get fooled by what people sell domains for, look at the bottom line. If you net 100K a year and are able to repeat that , it doesn't matter what you sell, how many you sell. Profit is what's counting.

That being said, I do agree with you but for those lacking funds to invest in top dollar names, there's another path to walk if you take the time to study, watch and educate yourself. Get creative.
You're quite right. If you find a system that works, stick with it.

The extra work and skills involved in marketing lower quality names (for a higher STR) might appeal to some. I just prefer putting in less effort to make the same amount. :)
 
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Disagree on "X". Quite identity-deprived. Also, when the value of TM's come up it is rarely considered that distinctiveness is not a TM regime invention. It is the function of a name. Since the dawn of names.
I kinda get what you are saying in that names by function create distinctiveness. But you can't register a descriptive name as a trademark, for example if you make and sell dictionaries you can't use the word Dictionary as a trademark. However if you make and sell robots that translate foreign languages as they guide you through a foreign city you could use the term "Dictionary" as a trademark precisely because it isn't a dictionary. That example is in a bit of a grey area but would probably pass.

Am I just babbling like an idiot and not grokking what you were saying? Also X.com by it's extreme minimalist nature is imbued with the strong identity of its nearly supernatural minimalist vibe. Nothing in the domain realm surpasses its minimalism. Stark, yes. Even bleak. Like the monolith in the movie 2001, the brand identity is futuristic and domineering. Nothing says "I AM" like X.com
 
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Disagree on "X". Quite identity-deprived. Also, when the value of TM's come up it is rarely considered that distinctiveness is not a TM regime invention. It is the function of a name. Since the dawn of names.
On another note, it seems that some feel you're an exception in being able to come up with catchy names and that your results aren't replicable. What's your view?
 
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t seems to me that there is a lack of creativity in domain name creation.

I sense that there is a fixation/obsession with keywords so that the domain will appeal to Google, a private company that is an effective monopoly and seems to do whatever it likes. Remember when Google were upstarts and said “Don’t be evil” - well, they have become what they once despised.
This happens with many challengers to the status quo, in that once they begin to grow, they can soon become the status quo and act in ways that they used to criticize/despise others. Apple is another such company, and as much as I like their products (except their poor Mail program), approaching $3 trillion in revenue hampers your ability to being a challenger, an innovator, fresh.
Perhaps if Steve and Jony were still there, Apple could still have those attributes.

But I digress.

I haven’t ever focused on creating domains based on keywords. It just seems that the keyword space is so overcrowded that getting noticed becomes harder and harder over time. I also don’t really understand this space, having not explored it and I also take exception to being at the mercy of the evil G, who behave as judge, jury & executioner, to say the least of their antics.

Looking at the some of the recently created internet companies (last 15 years or so), there are many two word company names made up of dictionary words, but a good number are names that are not real words and their names are just made up.
This is the area I have focused on for the past 10+ years and I have been surprised at how many names have been available that I have come up with. Over the last few years, I have added over 200 names to my portfolio and I am coming up with name ideas all the time. Although not all my name ideas become names I register.

I don’t expect many of my names to appeal to lots of people or that they will sell for eyebrow raising amounts. But like all seller/buyer scenarios, it only takes one person to like a name I have created and like it enough to want to buy it. Given the population of internet users, which is always growing and that useful domain names are becoming increasingly rarer, I think that won’t be hard to achieve.

I usually come up with names by something I see or hear, sometimes swapping letters around or adding 1-2 letters, sometimes replacing letters. I have also “discovered” names, serendipitously, by making typos when I’ve been typing something, like an email or a url. It is surprising to me how often this happens and I am stopped in my working flow. I pause for a while and think about what is on the screen. Sometimes, its nothing or really just junk, but sometimes it looks and sounds great to me.

Usually, I need to like how the domain sounds and if it passes the “radio test”. I also have to be able to see what market the name might address or appeal to and whether that market is immature/mature and/or overcrowded and/or populated by upstarts. Domain names are very low cost, but if you register many iffy names or names with fringe appeal, the costs add up.
I check the visitor figures for each of my domains as they are coming up for renewal and take a decision on whether to renew or let them expire. I don’t let many go.

I tend to focus on 5-8 letter domains (4 letter domains are almost all taken up, the worthwhile ones that is, but I don’t spend any time searching just for these), but I might go beyond 8 letters if the name sounds very good to me.

I do have some domains that are real words, including people’s names, but this is less than 5% of my portfolio.

If you have approached domain name creation in ways other than by using keywords, perhaps you’d like to share your method or comment on mine.
Your approach to domain name creation is refreshingly creative! It's intriguing how you find inspiration in everyday observations, typos, and linguistic experimentation rather than relying solely on keyword optimization. Your emphasis on memorable names that pass the "radio test" and have market potential demonstrates a thoughtful approach to domain investment. Thanks for sharing your unique method!
 
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There are billions of people on Earth. Unique ideas, especially good ones, are rather rare.

Most ideas are going to be influenced by a number of other factors, but are generally derivative in some way.

A lot of creative people don't like to admit that, but nothing really happens in a vacuum.

Anyone can come up with a unique idea or brand, but it is normally unique for a reason...because it is bad.

Brad
So like perfection, originality doesn't exist.
 
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It's a fun way to come up with names, but will be tough on sales in the long run.

You'll most often be registering names that no company is currently using, meaning you have no existing potential buyers. So like you said, you do indeed have to:
  • hope that someone else likes this name that no one else has liked enough to buy
  • hope that this person wants to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to acquire that name
If you're still fairly new in domaining, you may want to slow down on the registrations to see how these ones sell before investing in a lot more.
 
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Hi, @Adrigan , you report my Post to ask you a sample of domain names you have registered? Are you afraid to show up your creativity? You said other domainers are not creative, so why you are afraid to show the sample domain names you registered?

@Alfa Mod Team you can see that this thread is insult other domainers too, and how rude his words to reply my answer to his post above..

Is his words above better than mine? I copy paste his words to answer my post :

You may think you know some things but people actually know very, very little, of what is knowable. People often think they know much more than they actually do.

And call other question silly question, is it rude ? :

Of course, if you gave me a choice of diamond.com or fiverr.com for free, I would have to be an idiot to say "Give me fiverr.com", because we are in the business of economics and the only reason all of us do not got and buy diamond.com is because we don't have $10 million to spend. So its really, a silly question, I think.
 
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