domain Opinions WANTED on BiometricTransponder.com .

[WhoaDomain.com]

Hello,
Not to show off. but really just wanted to what people thought of this domain.
Some research on this keyword Biometric Transponder pulls up the patent holder for this device. Don't know why they didn't immediately register the domain to match their invention. No Big deal. I have it now.
The company is Simons Voss Techologies holding the patent which was recently swallowed up by the huge Allegion company. Do your own research on these companies before you give your honest opinion on this domain.

http://www.simons-voss.com/fileadmi...__18_Manual_Q3007_BiometricTransponder_GB.pdf

http://www.google.com/patents/US20040255628

http://www.simons-voss.com/Transponder.68.0.html?&L=6

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=simonsvoss+allegion

http://investor.allegion.com/news-and-events/news-releases/2015/09-01-2015

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=allegion

1. 
   Allegion Plc is a provider of security products and solutions for homes and businesses. It makes 27 global brands including CISA, Interflex, LCN, Schlage and Von Duprin. Wikipedia
   
   Stock price: ALLE (NYSE)$61.11+0.04 (+0.07%)
   Feb 23, 4:02 PM EST - Disclaimer
   Headquarters: Republic of Ireland
   Founded: 1908

Market Cap $5.68 Billion.

My opinion is that someone made a slight error in judgement or it never crossed their mind to registered their main product's keyword as a domain.

Imagine if the name of their product ended up pointing to say a porn or whatever horrible websites there are online? Not that I would actually redirect to such sites. I think they would appreciate handing over some serious money just so that won't be anything to ever worry about.

This is a technology that will replace your mom and pop's Door Lock. Door locks will go digital! How many doors are there in the world?

So who should I approach? The end user? or some offshore domain investment group? or just list it on Sedo or Godaddy?

If so how much should I put as a BIN price and what should by my Starting Bid Min?

I'm already connected with the marketing director over at Allegion so yea. Might happen soon. I will need some real honest opinions about what my target price should be and what my "starting point" price should be.


Curious to know what people will say. Thanks.

also I did get BiometricTransponder.net and BiometricTransponder.org just in case.

 

[Debt.tv]

You essentially registered a domain that has no google searches according to adwords keyword tool...a google search shows there are no advertisers and only 229,000 search results (low), 1 prospective buyer, likelyhood for a sale...LOW

Starting price if Allegion buys it....$100 if they really want it on a good day....I hope I'm wrong but the outlook is not good

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I see. I was aware of that. But took a chance just after reading the companies involved. Thanks! I wonder what Staples.com's search results was prior to Staples buying it? lol before Staples wasn't even a store. I'd figure that Staples only meant well "staples" from a stapler. lol too bad there's no way to check the search results for keyword Staples back in the 80's or 90's or whenever prior to when Staples First started. If someone were to tell me that some office store would become huge in the future and called Staples.com? no office whatever.com I'd definitely look at that person was an idiot.

hmmm that's a good next question. does anyone know or can find out what keywords "Staples" was back prior to the company opening up for business? I mean you can't do it now because Staples.com is all over the place mentioned. wish I had a time machine. Could Archive.org's way back machine show some data on this?

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Thanks for the reply though.

 

[Hypersot]

I see. I was aware of that. But took a chance just after reading the companies involved. Thanks! I wonder what Staples.com's search results was prior to Staples buying it? lol before Staples wasn't even a store. I'd figure that Staples only meant well "staples" from a stapler. lol too bad there's no way to check the search results for keyword Staples back in the 80's or 90's or whenever prior to when Staples First started. If someone were to tell me that some office store would become huge in the future and called Staples.com? no office whatever.com I'd definitely look at that person was an idiot.

hmmm that's a good next question. does anyone know or can find out what keywords "Staples" was back prior to the company opening up for business? I mean you can't do it now because Staples.com is all over the place mentioned. wish I had a time machine. Could Archive.org's way back machine show some data on this?

Maybe I'm missing some point you're trying to make but your domain vs staples is just not compareable.
Staples is a short, one word, keyword/brandable name while yours is just a two word, keyword term with no search value.

 

[Debt.tv]

Maybe I'm missing some point you're trying to make but your domain vs staples is just not compareable.
Staples is a short, one word, keyword/brandable name while yours is just a two word, keyword term with no search value.

biometrictransponder vs staples.....nuff said

whats the lamens term for biometric transponder? you find that....you got something

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

good point so ...so your main point of contention is the shortness. I can agree with that so Transponder.com or biometric.com would be much better then right?..ok so back to your "problem" with the length of my domain. it is long I agree. If I could have regged Biometric or transponder right now I'd be on it but I was late so that's that.

Ok so thee only domains IN THE WORLD with value is short domains? even if the long domains are an exact keyword match for a specific product? right?

ok one sec lemme check dnpric.es

ok you ready?

CarInsurance.com $49 million back in 2010. We can all count right? how many letters? 12 letters? that sure ain't SHORT by any definition. yes yes yes it is an exact keyword match for Car Insurance. but if we go by your method of thinking then this domain should be garbage yes or no? lol

next!
VacationRentals.com $35 million! back in 200& let's call count! how many letters? 15 letters!! wooo hooo! now that's short!!(sarcasm) so the shortness factor sure didn't stop this one from selling for millions. Yes yes exact keyword match I get it I get it. but it IS an example of a long ass domain sold for millions.

Another one I heard was.

JacksonHoleRealEstate.com for $80,000. how many letters? 22 letters! imagine that?

oh any other keywords that I know sold for top dollar include DebtSettlement or my personal favorite. Mesothelioma!

so......I know most domainers have tunnel vision and I can respect that you guys have a ton of experience ahead of me but it seems like no matter how far we all go there will always be some things that just doesn't fit the norm.

but ok so let's here the rebuttals. what's the argument going to be that oh CarInsurance.com has high CPC value on Google adsense and adwords thats why it's so expensive.

ok so now we base it on CPC? ok so that's why mesothilioma is so expensive a word right? but why are such words so expensive? because there is so much competition for that keyword.

but at some point most of the most expensive keywords on Google had to start somewhere like 5 cents a click or whatever.

are we all saying that Biometric Transponder at 249,000 won't ever have a high keyword price? I think if Google finds out the potential of such companies. I mean imagine. They WILL replace your mom and pop's KEYS. I bet everyone in this forum right now has a key to something.

If this tech replaced KEYS then this keyword would relate to everyone in this forum right now. There has to be value in that. In the future when someone leaves their house the three things they won't forget are their Phone and their Biometric Transponder.

Yea true a mobilephone might eventually be used to open door locks but that's like all your eggs in one basket. Good to keep all things separate. imagine while surfing for porn on your mobile you get a virus and now the hacker can open the door to your house. Not cool. well sorta cool! lol

anyways. I appreciate the responses. would like to hear more. but I'm always positive no matter what.

In any case I'm already created a connection via linkedin with a Director and VP over at Allegion concerning this domain. Wish me luck guys! Thanks again!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

biometrictransponder vs staples.....nuff said

whats the lamens term for biometric transponder? you find that....you got something

lol alright alright. Thanks! I hear ya! lol

 

[Debt.tv]

Stop comparing apples to oranges Jackson Hole is a popular tourist destination and real estate is what people are looking for.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

agree to disagree. a

Stop comparing apples to oranges Jackson Hole is a popular tourist destination and real estate is what people are looking for.

is it really? I've never been there. ok well maybe I'm just not finding the right domain to use for my argument here maybe someone else who is a domain fanatic on NP and join in and help me out. Are there any domains that sold that "boggles" the mind? that you can't understand why it fetched so much money at purchase?

there HAS to be Some that I'm just not finding in a quick heart beat. You are kind catching me off guard but I'm sure there HAS to be some examples of long domains with no reason why it would have sold for so high but it did.

well here's one MarketingToday.com $1.5 million.
TandBerg.com $1.5 million?

 

[Hypersot]

Avtar, I definitely have no experience way ahead of you, I consider myself a total newbie when it comes to selling domains, but what you're trying to say is so totally obvious that is not how you want to see it (as debt.tv correctly said, you compare the wrong things) that even I can see it.

In the end of the day, if you like the domain and if you see future in it, by all means keep renewing it and do your promotion until it sells and I really wish you luck in it.
I can tell you that, if I personally really like a name, I just keep it no matter what anyone else says.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

true true .no here to argue with anyone. I DID after all put out an open call to anyone to give their opinion and if you do that well you have to take it. before posting this thread. I "was" confident but now not so much. but now I just know what perhaps a potential buyer might be thinking so I better have the right BS to tell them premade. I guess that was the point of posting on NP to get the brutal honest.

up next?
TropicalResidences.com


I will start a new thread for this one but you all can comment here. Thanks.

 

[Debt.tv]

up next?
TropicalResidences.com


I will start a new thread for this one but you all can comment here. Thanks.

I like it, brandable, lots of potential end users, good luck.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

oh and VacationResidential.com and DestionationResidence.com

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Thanks bro. Hope we cool now. earlier you sounded like you was bite my head off lol I was like what the heck? lol Thanks for the honest opinion. We all need a kick in the pants when we do dumbass moves. lol

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

woops! I guess I did it again. I got my post moved. Thanks Mod.

 

[Debt.tv]

It's not a kick in the pants, sometimes the truth hurts, I've been selling 2-3k in domains a month and I just want to help....check out my latest sale via the completed sales thread...we talked about it in PM.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

oh yea that's right! what happened with that? pm me about it! you did good?

 

[cocaseco]

It's simply too long for my tastes. For the most part I agree with what has already been said. But, there are no rules here with regards to value, only opinions...experienced opinions! In the end if you get the company with the product to buy into your vision, you will make a sale. Short of them, I think your options are limited. You may make a lot of money and stranger things happen on a regular basis in domaining. But based on the common metrics that most people use, and that work most of the time, it doesn't have much value. The proof is in you going out and selling it, then coming back and sharing your success story. Also, don't get discouraged too easily. Every domainer thinks that the domain they just bought was great and had value, otherwise you wouldn't have bought it. And everyone of those domainers, myself included, has domain(s) that they look back on after some time in the business, and ask themselves WTF they were thinking.

 

[james haw]

good point so ...so your main point of contention is the shortness. I can agree with that so Transponder.com or biometric.com would be much better then right?

"Length" is not the core issue, it's the domain name itself. The length may add an additional issue but only because it's not a sought after name.

"Transponder.com" opens up the potential market to many things within the entirety of the transponder industry.

"Biometric.com" is worth a lot, as it could be a security firm installing or selling, or a manufacturer of the equipment, a research org, many things.

Yours is "honed down" to one thing - "Biometric Transponders". Which isn't even a thing. It's like having "Shoe Scissors" IMO.


To step away from your domain which you have vested interest in, consider:

"Casino.com"
"OnlineCasino.com"
"OnlineCasinoInVegasHotel.com" <--- this is yours in essence, not total words or length, but the size of your market due to how tight your niche is


I would confidently say you are going to have to reach out to end users and sell this one, with a good tactic.
Good luck