discuss Religious discussion

[mr-x]

I'm sure you know more about scripture than most but in the Bible, didn't God exterminate a bunch of people he didn't particularly like and wanted to start over with Noah and a boat?

Off topic so I'll keep it short.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:5-6,11-12

I don't think he killed them because he loved them.
And then there's the story of 'Sodom' and Gomorrah. Which entirely refutes what you said...

God gave Sodom & Ghmorrah multiple chances to repent. The last chance they tried to rape an Angel.

Not that I care. It's just some food for thought

Read Genesis, then Matthew. Should clear most questions up.

 

[biggie]

and to destroy those who are destroying the earth

Hi

if....
earth, is mother nature
and man,
is trying to destroy it
then
for earth to survive
man, must die

unless, he changes his nature

imo...

 

[mr-x]

“Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.”

“If someone strikes you on the cheek turn the other cheek.”

Sometimes disagree wit 2nd but it’s admirable

This helps me:

27“But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.

Forgiveness is a gift to yourself.

 

[mr-x]

"Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money."

1) The Spirit of God has empowered people to go to all corners of the earth to help others.

2) Hell is not forever. People do not go directly to hell when they die, that is a 20th century error.

3) God will do everything possible to keep you from dying, including suffering in your place for the harm you have caused.

 

[mr-x]

...But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money."

God needs nothing. Any money you use to help others in his name is only giving back.

 

[karamakate]

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan​

 

[mr-x]

Christianity is one of many dogmatic world religions, of which there are many denominations. They may not all look alike and may have different names, but generally most share common ground - a belief in 'God'.

Christianity is apart from all religions because our creator became a human to die and pay the price for our sins. He gave up his divinity, then took it back. Jesus Christ is still a Human who empathizes with us.

Our world was lost through one man and was redeemed by one man.

Ellen White describes the "Great Controversy" between Jesus Christ and Satan, as played out over the millennia from its start in heaven, to its final end when the remnant who are faithful to God will be taken to heaven at the Second Advent of Christ, and the world is destroyed and recreated.

The entire Bible, books from different authors across time, from start to finish, all tell the story of Christ.

We all have our own concept of God, but interestingly if one changes the word 'God' from a noun to a verb it doesn't change the meaning, but gives the word action (or quality).

"Nouns don't grow, only verbs grow..."

 

[mr-x]

Written aprox 1000 years before Jesus was born, quoted by Christ on the cross:

Psalm 22

My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?
Why are You so far from helping Me,
And from the words of My groaning?

2 O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear;
And in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But You are holy,
Enthroned in the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in You;
They trusted, and You delivered them.

5 They cried to You, and were delivered;
They trusted in You, and were not ashamed.

6 But I am a worm, and no man;
A reproach of men, and despised by the people.

7 All those who see Me ridicule Me;
They [b]shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 “He [c]trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him;
Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!”

9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb;
You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts.

10 I was cast upon You from birth.
From My mother’s womb
You have been My God.

11 Be not far from Me,
For trouble is near;
For there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have surrounded Me;
Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me.

13 They [d]gape at Me with their mouths,
Like a raging and roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water,
And all My bones are out of joint;
My heart is like wax;
It has melted [e]within Me.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
And My tongue clings to My jaws;
You have brought Me to the dust of death.

16 For dogs have surrounded Me;
The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me.
They[f] pierced My hands and My feet;

17 I can count all My bones.
They look and stare at Me.

18 They divide My garments among them,
And for My clothing they cast lots.

19 But You, O Lord, do not be far from Me;
O My Strength, hasten to help Me!

20 Deliver Me from the sword,
My[g] precious life from the power of the dog.

21 Save Me from the lion’s mouth
And from the horns of the wild oxen!
You have answered Me.

22 I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.

23 You who fear the Lord, praise Him!
All you [h]descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,
And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel!

24 For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
Nor has He hidden His face from Him;
But when He cried to Him, He heard.

25 My praise shall be of You in the great assembly;
I will pay My vows before those who fear Him.

26 The poor shall eat and be satisfied;
Those who seek Him will praise the Lord.
Let your heart live forever!

27 All the ends of the world
Shall remember and turn to the Lord,
And all the families of the [i]nations
Shall worship before [j]You.

28 For the kingdom is the Lord’s,
And He rules over the nations.

29 All the prosperous of the earth
Shall eat and worship;
All those who go down to [k]the dust
Shall bow before Him,
Even he who cannot keep himself alive.

30 A posterity shall serve Him.
It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation,

31 They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born,
That He has done this.

 

[Cannuck]

"...and the nations were angry, and Your anger came, and the time of the dead to be judged, and to give the reward to Your servants, to the prophets, and to the holy ones, and to those fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those who are destroying the earth.” Revelation 11:18

 

[mr-x]

Q: What is the greatest surprise Billy Graham has found about life?
A. “The brevity of it.”

Billy Graham once fielded this question from a university student, and he offered the above answer without hesitation. In his autobiography, Just As I Am, he recalled the exchange with the following note:

“As I have been working on this book, many of the things I have recounted seem as if they happened only yesterday. Time moves so quickly, and no matter who we are or what we have done, the time will come when our lives will be over.

“As Jesus said, “As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work” (John 9:4).

 

[mr-x]

...

I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. – Richard Dawkins

That's not true. The whole life of a Christian is trying to make the world a better place.

And finally.........

"Religion is like a Pen*s. It’s fine to have one. It’s fine to be proud of it. But please don’t whip it out in public and start waving it around, and please don’t try to shove it down my throats."

I'll see around you in another thread

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

 

[NickB]

OK - I said I was going to leave this thread, but just watched this on the BBC

It's not anti religious, might be a little thought provoking for you all.........

God and robots: Will AI transform religion?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-58983047

 

[mr-x]

If you pray to a man made idol, praying with a robot is not a big difference.

 

[karamakate]

Hi

earth, is life
without it
living, doesn't exist

imo...

Tardigrades would like to have a word with you...

 

[mr-x]

"So I gave them over to their own stubborn heart, To walk in their own counsels."

https://biblehub.com/psalms/81-12.htm

 

[mr-x]

I find it strange that every discussion of religion is full of atheist, most of whom know nothing of Christianity ( edit ) or any other religion.

 

[mr-x]

'I Stand By the Language': Bible College Fires Professor for Tweet Against Sexual Sin

The Professor is correct.

 

[.X.]

Btw , I am a non denominational Protestant - Christian . Born missionary Baptist, later a Southern Baptist , turned non denominational at age 33 , I like people of all religions , I will pray with people of all religions ..

 

[jhm]

 

[Cannuck]

Hi

if....
earth, is mother nature
and man,
is trying to destroy it
then
for earth to survive
man, must die

unless, he changes his nature

imo...

Our consumer behaviour is well-honed. Another verse which may be relevant to today...

"The earth mourns and withers; the world languishes and withers; the highest people of the earth languish. The earth lies defiled under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse devours the earth, and its inhabitants suffer for their guilt; therefore the inhabitants of the earth are scorched, and few men are left." Isaiah 24:4-6

 

[biggie]

The earth mourns

and few men are left.

if....
the earth to mourns
then
it must have compassion
like an emotion a mother feels
and such is why
a few men are left

imo....

 

[Samer]

“Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.”

“If someone strikes you on the cheek turn the other cheek.”

Sometimes disagree wit 2nd but it’s admirable

 

[mr-x]

if....
the earth to mourns
then
it must have compassion
like an emotion a mother feels
and such is why
a few men are left

imo....

Good point but I think the earth morns is a reference to the suffering of the living, mankind, animals, birds, fish, plants.

 

[NickB]

"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there, and finding it."
Oscar Wilde​

 

[mr-x]

"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there, and finding it."
Oscar Wilde​

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking
7“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.