alert Alert: Domain Scammer/Hijacker : Shiran Pahima

[TimothyS]

Guys, please pay close attention to the malicious hijacker/scammer:

Shiran Pahima , Louisiana (Baton Rouge Area), USA
Email & Escrow Account: [email protected]

We've made a transaction with her for the domain name: SJW.COM for 41K net via Escrow.com in March and Godaddy removed the domain SJW.COM from our account just 4 days later due to the domain SJW.COM is a fuxking stolen domain and the original holder was acquired it back from our account. Apparently we lost the cash and transaction fees for such a malicious transaction with this scumbag. She is disappeared after we suffered the loss. no mails, no calls.

She is selling some names recently like YIG.COM. please pay attention to her domain list.

We are taking legal actions to against this scumbag and acquired some information about her. Anyone who have her information please kindly help us, we will get you paid on this. We will make her suffer.

One more thing wanna let you guys know is : Contact the former holder and get confirmed before you trade a valuable domain.

 

[TimothyS]

Escrow is there to make sure the money and domain exchange hands. As @Kate hinted to, it's really beyond their scope to check if the domain is stolen. I haven't checked, but I'm willing to bet it's all there in the fine print.

Yes sirs, they don't give a thing after the transaction is done.

 

[TimothyS]

Well, at least they must provide all the information on the scammers, including the ID they provided, money trail etc. And if there is a part of work they did not do properly, no fine print should protect them...

Yes, sadly that we have to file a lawsuit to get those info.

 

[TimothyS]

Maybe SEDO know something about?

Twitter 15 Mar 2017: Just scheduled for auction @Sedo SJW(.)com a great pinyin LLL domain.

Thank you sir. The scumbag opened an auction on Sedo and failed due to the price is not met reservation. I contacted her and made the deal. Seed have nothing can be offered since Sedo is not a part of our deal even they know some sh*t about the scumbag.

 

[TimothyS]

You need to get Godaddy to inform Escrow.com that they removed the domain from your account due to it being stolen, that may push Escrow to release the seller's information including name bank account etc. The information will help you track this person.

Thank you Sir, we did. but Godaddy will help us nothing except a lawsuit. we are doing that. we don't care how much will be cost to make the scumbag suffer.

 

[Lox]

@TimothyS Check this info (related to 8473 com)

Lookup @ Who.is - xuxinjian - 2016-08-23 - Expiration: 2019-05-20 - 22NET
Lookup @ AcNow - Shiran Pahima - Updated Date: 21-feb-2017 - Expiration: 20-may-2018 - GoDaddy

 

[TimothyS]

@TimothyS Check this info (related to 8473 com)

Lookup @ Who.is - xuxinjian - 2016-08-23 - Expiration: 2019-05-20 - 22NET
Lookup @ AcNow - Shiran Pahima - Updated Date: 21-feb-2017 - Expiration: 20-may-2018 - GoDaddy

Thank you sir, I know she is selling more names. Just send an alert to the buyers who touching her.

 

[wwwweb]

whois roulette here

nla-i.net

 

[HotKey]

Yes, the scumbag used the whois privacy on Godaddy, I was traded with her whois mail.

You spent 40k on a domain that was under whois privacy?

 

[TimothyS]

You spent 40k on a domain that was under whois privacy?

Yes we did. The domain was under privacy before it push to our account.
She was put the domain on a Sedo auction.

 

[lock]

The problem Is you cannot sue anyone in any country I may just be cheaper to count losses today. If your both in USA you can pursue things but chances a civil law suit might just cost you more.
If you do look for a lawyer I have read a bit about David Weslow on Domain Sherpa he specializes in this. I would be looking or someone that only does trademarks and domains. Never used him just read an interview few weeks ago. I have the perfect domain to suit is why I was looking.

 

[TimothyS]

The problem Is you cannot sue anyone in any country I may just be cheaper to count losses today. If your both in USA you can pursue things but chances a civil law suit might just cost you more.
If you do look for a lawyer I have read a bit about David Weslow on Domain Sherpa he specializes in this. I would be looking or someone that only does trademarks and domains. Never used him just read an interview few weeks ago. I have the perfect domain to suit is why I was looking.

Thank you sir. I know go through the law will take more days. We are a company based in few countries and USA. So we don't care how much is going to cost to make the scumbag suffer. So let's wait and see, she will be sorry for what she did.

 

[Want2learn]

What would you pay to have a face to face meeting? Bounty Hunters may be the way to go.

 

[TimothyS]

What would you pay to have a face to face meeting? Bounty Hunters may be the way to go.

Hey, thanks. No, we paid via Escrow.

 

[tldboss]

Agree, this sucks even just reading about what happened, can only imagine how pissed off you are, I hope the scumbag suffers too. Good luck

 

[Dave]

Really sorry to hear this. I hope you get your money back.

Reminds me of a tool I was once working on that would track registered domains and would aid in determining if a domain had been stolen or not. Realised this is such a rare case to make such a tool worth my time. I wonder if this is common enough to yield such an investment in said tool again? How many would be interested in donating to the development of such a tool? As much as I love creating software writing algorithms that detect such things is very time consuming though..

 

[tldboss]

Really sorry to hear this. I hope you get your money back.

Reminds me of a tool I was once working on that would track registered domains and would aid in determining if a domain had been stolen or not. Realised this is such a rare case to make such a tool worth my time. I wonder if this is common enough to yield such an investment in said tool again? How many would be interested in donating to the development of such a tool? As much as I love creating software writing algorithms that detect such things is very time consuming though..

Over the past few months I have read a number of cases here on NamePros of stolen domain names.

Suggestion: start a poll & gauge level of interest + other members might be able to help in other ways e.g with software engineering / design skills / documentation

 

[MapleDots]

Very unfortunate for the OP and very good of him to post and inform the rest of the community. Goes to show due prudence must be followed on all larger purchases. A database pf stolen domains would still e one of the best options. I cannot believe this has still not been done.

 

[ddfenton]

I don't understand how escrow.com weaseled out of culpability as did godaddy? Is there any doubt that the thief is the party you've named since the ad was originally on Sedo and then the owner was registered privately? Could he/she have sold it twice - ?

I have been involved with a major con man and managed to get him arrested and had my loss reinstated, but he ripped people off internationally for many years. The best way of apprehending him was to take it public (this site is a good start) and think about contacting INVESTORS RELATIONS and the the media liaison departments at GoDaddy, Escrow, Sedo and any other visible company involved with this. They don't want this going out, can you imagine? Dispatching emails to senior-level management to the effect of, "I'm sure you don't want your reputation tarnished by this 'misunderstanding' ...."

On that note, if you want to embarrass people into culpability -- because international IP law can be byzantine, you must be prepared to allow them to save face. And referring to someone as "a scumbag," no matter how deservedly, drags YOU down to HER/HIS level and turns it into a he said/she said.

Be careful not to let this get obscured into a street brawl if we're talking high level - FEDERAL, criminal activity - this is a con you're dealing with.

Good luck and thanks for letting us know. I do think, you should work with a researcher and, investigator and possibly a publicist - especially if money is no object. We busted our guy by finding out a slew of information that he ended up paying to keep quiet. Ping me for more info or if I can help.

 

[Wannabean]

A database pf stolen domains would still e one of the best options. I cannot believe this has still not been done.

It hasn't been done because the owner's don't know they've been stolen. By the time the names could be verified as stolen and added to a database, the theft has been discovered, the owner has reclaimed them and they can no longer be considered stolen.

 

[TimothyS]

bump

 

[rh2000]

Guys, please pay close attention to the malicious hijacker/scammer:

Shiran Pahima , Louisiana (Baton Rouge Area), USA
Email & Escrow Account: [email protected]

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We've made a transaction with her for the domain name: SJW.COM for 41K net via Escrow.com in March and Godaddy removed the domain SJW.COM from our account just 4 days later due to the domain SJW.COM is a fuxking stolen domain and the original holder was acquired it back from our account. Apparently we lost the cash and transaction fees for such a malicious transaction with this scumbag. She is disappeared after we suffered the loss. no mails, no calls.

She is selling some names recently like YIG.COM. please pay attention to her domain list.

We are taking legal actions to against this scumbag and acquired some information about her. Anyone who have her information please kindly help us, we will get you paid on this. We will make her suffer.

One more thing wanna let you guys know is : Contact the former holder and get confirmed before you trade a valuable domain.

Sorry this happened to you.

 

[Alans1225]

I agree with ddfenton and others 100% .....

 

[lock]

Thank you Sir, we did. but Godaddy will help us nothing except a lawsuit. we are doing that. we don't care how much will be cost to make the scumbag suffer.

You might be missing my point. Nearly anyone in any country can buy a domain but should I get screwed by eg: I am in Australia and try to sue someone in a random country eg: somewhere in Eastern Europe all the money and lawsuits won't make him suffer just screwed up dismissed thrown in bin as the law isn't world law and doesn't include them and there will be nothing more done about it other than throwing more money away. The info you have looks pretty bogus to start.

 

[lambo.com]

I was the buyer of YIG.com.

Sedo still have my funds and seller still has domain (it was locked for 2 months)

I forwarded them to this thread. Sedo don't care and still want to go ahead!

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"Thank you for the update. We certainly understand your concerns but this is a matter that happened outside of Sedo and is regarding a different domain. We have followed up with the seller and they have done all actions requested of them to show they own and have the rights to the domain for this transaction.

Unfortunately we are not able to speak on matters outside of our process. So far the seller has complied and even left the privacy setting off the domain to show their ownership since we asked them to do so. If there was an issue with another domain it does not mean that there is an issue with this domain. As far as we can tell the seller has the right to own and sell the domain. We hope this has helped. "

 

[ddfenton]

Ok, now I have an inquiry from Yoshihiko aka "domain broker," wanting a certificate from a third party agency (as yet unknown) for a client offering upwards of $15K for a site I own listed on Sedo for $2k. I've read almost identically worded inquiries online with different "handles," i.e. "domain lawyer."
Rather than (continuing to) highjack this thread-- where should I post this question and details?