DO NOT PARK at Domain Sponsor

[danielr]

Domain Sponsor has made some recent changes and I have watched my revenue drop over 1000 percent in the last few days. I am in the process of moving my domains out of there and so should you....
Move to SEDO or Fabulous or GoldKey.

I received the following info from an email.....

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Are the days of pay-per-click over? Domain Sponsor is the first major PPC parking service to announce that they are no longer paying on a pure pay-per-click basis. As of this past week they pay more if people actually buy stuff when they click through your links. They will pay less if people don't buy stuff. For this reason we are no longer recommending Domain Sponsor until we can fully evaluate the impact of this change.

Domain Sponsor has put so much spin on their announcement that most people haven't quite caught on. On their site they phrase it this way:

With the integration of DomainSponsor into Revenue.net, we can now move forward with the first major enhancement of the DomainSponsor service: Rewarding Traffic Quality. Over the past few months DomainSponsor has been hard at work trying to find new and innovative ways to increase payouts and reward publishers with the highest quality traffic. We're pleased to announce some of these advancements to you today.

Due to recent enhancements via our upstream partners, combined with direct advertiser conversion data generated by Revenue.net, we have developed greater insight into the performance of each individual publisher's traffic stream. We can now more accurately gauge the quality (backend sales conversion) of your specific traffic and compensate you accordingly. Many of you will notice an increase in payouts. This pricing recalibration will be rolled out at approximately 9pm PST today 10/11/2005, across all publisher accounts. This model includes adjustments to our bid values, which will now be dynamically aligned with your respective traffic quality.


Despite the positive spin, this change may well result in decreased payouts if you park with Domain Sponsor. Should you move your domains elsewhere? We don't recommend a wholesale retreat. If you suspect that the traffic to some of your domains doesn't convert well you should consider moving those domains to Sedo, Parking Dots, or Gold Key - the three services that we currently recommend.

Is this a sign of things to come? Probably. Some of the other major players have beta projects that seem to offer the same promise - a bonus for higher "traffic quality." Look for announcements from one or more services shortly.

We currently recommend three pay-per-click parking services for domain owners seeking to maximize their pay-per-click income. Parking Dots and Gold Key both use Yahoo ads, and Sedo uses ads from Google. Full
How Does Domain Sponsor know about the "quality" of traffic?

Domain Sponsor and Revenue.net are products of Oversee.net. This company sells their own ads, in addition to reselling Google's ads on our sites. They appear to be tracking click-throughs and actual purchases from their own ads and using this information to measure what they call "traffic quality."



information on these and several other services is available at Park Quick.

 

[NameFarmer]

Ok, while we'r at it. Domainsponsor landings are also blacklisted on A LOT of big time firewalls. I can document this black on white for the DS guys if they wish! IMHO DS is a nono. BTW, I have no invested interest in the nameparking business whatsoever :bah: I only park.

 

[kslup_k]

Ok, while we'r at it. Domainsponsor landings are also blacklisted on A LOT of big time firewalls. I can document this black on white for the DS guys if they wish! IMHO DS is a nono. BTW, I have no invested interest in the nameparking business whatsoever :bah: I only park.

Hello

can i take a look at the proof??
If it is true, i am going to move away my domains RIGHT away..

Thank you veryu much, and i am sure many of us would like to see this too.

 

[BurninDragon08]

I always thought they sucked.
Thats why I never used them.

 

[Shorty]

I tried to sign up to DS the other day and there was a fault with their form. They had the max length on the email space set to like 25, couldn't even fit my gmail address in there.

But now i'm glad, pay per lead schemes suck for simple parking, what a stupid idea. Oh well, looks like Sedo will get even more popular.

 

[Matrix1976]

Hello

can i take a look at the proof??
If it is true, i am going to move away my domains RIGHT away..

Thank you veryu much, and i am sure many of us would like to see this too.

I can confirm this as well with 100% certainty, but i cannot give my source...On the plus side, these blacklisted servers are mostly asian, so since that traffic doesnt usually convert too well (or at all) it is not a huge loss....

 

[l0zo]

Before i saw this post i had recently moved my names from ds and just made my own parking pages. I wasn't to happy at all with the revenue i earned there

 

[JMJ]

It will never fly with the majority of parked names. If PPC providers decide to try this move across the board it will only kill their industry and the portfolio owners will resort back to bundling and selling their traffic to the interested parties.

I never had any luck with affiliate programs. I ran CJ on one site years ago for about a year and never saw one red cent. The way I see it is I advertised those companies for free all year long.. I switched over to fastclick and made $30 the first month. Just as you have fraudsters in the PPC market you have fraudsters in the affiliate market only it's the other way around. The fraudsters in the affiliate market are the advertisers themselves. Not reporting sales or paying commisions on those sales, etc.

 

[Premium]

I also am experiencing this, when I got the email about revenue.net I thought the revenue would increase!!! :td: My domains are down about 20% and yes my poker clicks which were $3.50 are now down to $0.08!!!!!!

I don't know where to go now, NameDrive and Fabulous I think are the best as of now :tu:

 

[zaros64]

I have watched my revenue drop over 1000 percent in the last few days

THAT IS SAD... just get some content(an article for example, host it, add googles ads then use ur domains like addon domains)

 

[Matrix1976]

Regarding your revenu fluctuations since DS's new system took effect, please take a minute to respond to this poll :

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=133098


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[diddie]

They are loosing a lot of people ...

 

[primacomputer]

You can expect to see more companies going to performance based payouts in the future. PPC is a hard model to make work in the best of situations but on parked sites the conversion rates are so low it's just a waste of time for most people.

Hello

can i take a look at the proof??
If it is true, i am going to move away my domains RIGHT away..

Thank you veryu much, and i am sure many of us would like to see this too.

The ad blocker on my proxy server blocks it along with a number of others including Sedo, Fabulous, Goldkey and countless others.

 

[Grrilla]

The primary benefit of ppc, for me, is to get a *rough* idea of traffic as a basis of making performance comparisons on a portfolio-wide basis. Parking stats combined w/ the level of interest, (in the form of offers), are two factors I use to help prioritize name values and domain development potential. And than, of course, there is the sales aspect, which is the alleged purpose of a sales listing site, at least, before ppc hit the scene.

Other than the occasional reports one hears of large payouts, (poker/casino domains, for example), and the $xxxx-$xx,xxx monthly incomes that some are realizing from ppc, (which, if taken at face value, must have been derived from very high quality keyword domains that, in all likelihood, would have more income or monetization potential if they were used as sites that were marketing products, collecting Adsense revenue and/or partnered w/ affiliate programs), the income derived from the vast majority of domains listed at ppc sites is insignificant.

But I don't see how and where we market our domains as being an either/or proposition and I do a bit of a "mixing and matching" w/ my names. About 2/3 of my performers remain parked w/ ppc as I work on the other 1/3 that I've moved onto my own server space. I am also migrating over names that I have no current development plans for that I believe to have high enduser sales potential, but that's another story.

 

[TTHosting]

I signed up just now at fabulous to see if they are any good.. I know I hardly make anything at sedo

 

[MissFlora]

Judging from the majority opinions, which company will be the better ones in the field of PPC?

Flora.

 

[kslup_k]

Judging from the majority opinions, which company will be the better ones in the field of PPC?

Flora.

Fab, ND,Trafficz IMO...

 

[Grrilla]

Judging from the majority opinions, which company will be the better ones in the field of PPC?

Flora.

I abstain.

May be a moot issue by this time next year, anyways.

 

[equity78]

Why abstain Michael ? I value your opinion, I think that PPC is not going away form speaking to some at the first two days of T.R.A.F.F.I.C there is no inclination in any of the seminars that this will be happening. IF ppc goes down there will be a lot of semi content sites with adsense and YPN hosting should pick up as millions of names will need a host.

 

[Smith]

I've personally seen my traffic revenue increase with the names I have parked at DS since the change. A lot of it has to do with traffic quality, if you have low quality traffic it will be reflected in your statistics.

Also, changing ppc companies won't change this in the long run as it is beyond the control of the company's such as DS, this is primarily a feed issue. Each individual account is tracked for traffic quality and is paid accordingly by the feed provider ie. Google. I think that it is somewhat safe to expect this industry wide within a matter of months.

 

[equity78]

Define Traffic Quality Please I am not sure what they mean.

 

[Matrix1976]

I've personally seen my traffic revenue increase with the names I have parked at DS since the change. A lot of it has to do with traffic quality, if you have low quality traffic it will be reflected in your statistics.

Also, changing ppc companies won't change this in the long run as it is beyond the control of the company's such as DS, this is primarily a feed issue. Each individual account is tracked for traffic quality and is paid accordingly by the feed provider ie. Google. I think that it is somewhat safe to expect this industry wide within a matter of months.

pardon my rudeness, but you are either sarcastic or Naive with that post imo....

 

[snoop]

I've personally seen my traffic revenue increase with the names I have parked at DS since the change. A lot of it has to do with traffic quality, if you have low quality traffic it will be reflected in your statistics.

Also, changing ppc companies won't change this in the long run as it is beyond the control of the company's such as DS, this is primarily a feed issue. Each individual account is tracked for traffic quality and is paid accordingly by the feed provider ie. Google. I think that it is somewhat safe to expect this industry wide within a matter of months.

agree 100%

 

[Smith]

pardon my rudeness, but you are either sarcastic or Naive with that post imo....

You're welcome to believe what you want, but this is what's happening.

I know for fact that Google has the ability to track traffic down to the individual account level within intermediary programs. So 2 people sending the same number of uniques a day can have vastly different results.

Traffic Quality would be for example: (this is just for example assume natural typins)

Person A sends 1000 uniques from "findlowmortgagerates.com" to an affiliate program and makes $1000

Person B sends 1000 uniques from "freemortgage.com" and makes $100

Why are these so different?

Lets assume that both are optimized to "mortgages"

Person A's traffic is looking for targeted low mortgage rates, so they are going to fill out more leads and convert to sales of mortgages for the banks etc.

Person B's traffic is going to be significantly less targeted, people looking for a free house who chances are will not actually get a mortgage in the end.

So who's traffic is really worth more to the advertiser?

Person A's without question.

Google is now looking at things like this, and I believe yahoo is soon to follow, as result the advertisers are being charged accordingly based on traffic quality.

Let me also add . . .

I post here because I'm bored from time to time, I find this site entertaining, and I don't mind helping out here and there where I might be more familiar with things than some other people.

I had the same thing happen when I posted that I knew of a person selling a registrar for example, was I lying? No. Am I going to go out of my way to prove something to people here? Not always.

So I'm sorry I don't have a high post count and don't have "street cred" with everyone here, but at the end of the day . . . not overly important to me I'm just some dude with 100 posts to you guys, I understand that, no worries, but sometimes let your minds be a little more open. Not everyone is new to the business on this forum

 

[leviathon]

I've never parked anythin there. Thank god I never tried :yell:

 

[snoop]

I've never parked anythin there. Thank god I never tried :yell:

where is the logic in that?, most of the people I have spoken with have seen substantial revenue rises.