alert Do not transfer any domain if they just renewed during the 45 day Auto-Renew period.

[omelet]

do not transfer any domain if they just renewed during the 45 day Auto-Renew period.



yesterday I transferred a .com to dynadot but no one year renewal added.

@Dynadot


https://www.dynadot.com/community/help/question/domain-not-renewed

My transfer was successful, but why wasn't a year added to my domain?​

Updated: 2024/01/30Viewed times: 2738
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There are three potential reasons why a domain name may not have a year added after a transfer:

1. Certain top-level domains (TLDs) do not add a year when they are transferred to another registrar. These domains include (but may not be limited to) .UK, .LT, .AI, .NL, .LV, .CH, and .AT. For .UK and .LT, there's no cost to transfer to Dynadot as they both are pushed to us by your current registrar with no additional year added. .NL, however, can be transferred to us normally, but doesn't have a year added initially because it is limited to a maximum of 1 year of registration by the registry. The price you pay to transfer goes towards an automatic renewal that our system will complete for you closer to the expiration date of your domain. For .AT, .CH, and .LV, domain transfers do not extend the domain registration period as they do not include a renewal upon transfer.
2. Domains that are already at or very close to their maximum registration time (this can be up to 10 years depending on the TLD), will not have a year added during a transfer as that would increase the total registration period past the maximum amount of time. You can see what the maximum registration time for a domain is by going to the domain's page and looking at how many years of pricing are listed on its "Domain Pricing" table (you can click on the domain from our TLD list); for example, .IM only lists three years of pricing because that is its maximum.
3. The domain was renewed after it expired (during its renewal grace period) and then transferred within 45 days of the renewal. Technically, this is called an "auto-renewal". If a domain is auto-renewed and then transferred within 45 days after the renewal, then the domain will not be renewed for an additional year after the transfer.
   This does not make sense because it seems like your domain should get two years: one for the renewal and one more for the transfer. However, this is the operational procedure of the central registry. This is not our policy, we do not get reimbursed by the Registry and gain nothing from only giving you one year. In fact, we have to deal with all the customers upset with this counter-intuitive policy of the central registry.
   Here is what ICANN has to say about this situation:
   "Registrants who transfer names within the 45-day Auto-Renew Grace Period should check with the registrar from which they are transferring regarding a possible refund. Even though losing registrars receive refunds of auto-renewal fees they have paid to the registry in these circumstances, not all registrars make refunds to customers. The effect of failure of the losing registrar to refund is that the registrant pays registration fees to both the losing registrar (for the auto-renew) and to the gaining registrar (for the transfer), but only receives a one-year extension of term."
   (Full text can be found here: http://www.icann.org/announcements/advisory-06jun02.htm)
   To avoid this unpleasant situation completely, please start your domain transfers at least 2 weeks before the expiration date.

 

[Sperry8]

Just want to say thanks for the heads up -- I was not aware of this "policy" as this scenario has never happened to me (I don't do many registrar transfers). I hope NameBright does the right thing and issues you a refund.

I also was not aware of this policy. Happy to know it. I was considering doing some early transfers as well (into Dynadot) to get access to their sales landers. Now I will def wait at least 45 days if I decide to do that at all

 

[DomainRecap]

Just because the registrar gets a refund doesn't mean they didn't render a service when I initially transferred it.

Actually it does.

They could "provide a service" like bringing you tea and crackers or giving you a back massage, but that's totally beside the point.

You paid for an registry renewal and a) you didn't receive this service, b) ICANN/registry was not paid for it, and c) the contracting registrar was refunded by ICANN/registry for not providing this service. Even ICANN believes you deserve a refund, but don't want the hassle of enforcing it.

You pull this "pay for a service you never received and were refused refund" crap with a big corporation transferring thousands of domains out, and the registrar will quickly find themselves in very hot water. But again, they're not stupid enough to do that and prefer to steal one-at-a-time from average customers.

 

[branding]

You paid for an registry renewal and a) you didn't receive this service, b) ICANN/registry was not paid for it, and c) the contracting registrar was refunded by ICANN/registry for not providing this service. Even ICANN believes you deserve a refund, but don't want the hassle of enforcing it.

No. You payed for a registrar transfer. Huge difference.

A) you did get this the service offered (a transfer) which may or may not come with a renewal as per ICANN regulation.
B) ICANN did get payed for one renewal
C) they refund for the (second) renewal, not for services rendered.

 

[HotKey]

I think, Omelet, you need to start tidying house before the company arrives while than during.

 

[mogo]

Hi, I have question and I would appreciate it if you could help me
I have a domain at NameBright, I backordered it using Dropcatch, If I transfer that domain after 60 days to Dynadot will a year be added to the expiration date or it will remain the same ?

 

[fardomai]

Hi, I have question and I would appreciate it if you could help me
I have a domain at NameBright, I backordered it using Dropcatch, If I transfer that domain after 60 days to Dynadot will a year be added to the expiration date or it will remain the same ?

It should be added, unlike the case of the OP.

 

[cpnames]

I had this happen too and was not able to get a refund. I bought a domain that I was led to believe was current, but it was pushed to my SAV account already expired. So I had to renew it with SAV in order to transfer it to Dynadot, and when I did I didn't get another year with Dynadot. Dynadot support told me about the 45 day rule and suggested that I ask SAV for a refund. SAV never even acknowledged my request.

 

[mogo]

It should be added, unlike the case of the OP.

Thank you

 

[pb]

I had this happen too and was not able to get a refund. I bought a domain that I was led to believe was current, but it was pushed to my SAV account already expired. So I had to renew it with SAV in order to transfer it to Dynadot, and when I did I didn't get another year with Dynadot. Dynadot support told me about the 45 day rule and suggested that I ask SAV for a refund. SAV never even acknowledged my request.

You didn't actually have to renew prior to transferring, unless it was in the redemption period already. Otherwise you can normally transfer expired domains and then the year is added by the receiving registrar.

 

[branding]

I had this happen too and was not able to get a refund. I bought a domain that I was led to believe was current, but it was pushed to my SAV account already expired. So I had to renew it with SAV in order to transfer it to Dynadot, and when I did I didn't get another year with Dynadot. Dynadot support told me about the 45 day rule and suggested that I ask SAV for a refund. SAV never even acknowledged my request.

@Sav.com if true, wtf?