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Just a few days ago I sent the following email to Yoni Belousov, Vaughn Liley, and Jeff Gabriel of Nova Registry, the new owners of the .LINK extension;

"Yoni etal.....what a waste of time and money to have created a portfolio of 1,500 .LINK domains believing I could help make .LINK successful.

One of my greatest strengths are the people I've gotten to know through Linkedin, and a few of them had reached out to me because they own .LINK domains.

Marek Eckhaus from Prague owns Sex.link
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Jim Haung from Shanghai owns Free.link

Furthermore, a domain friend of mine Joe N. from Canada was able to help me get domains like; Bicycle.link, American.link and Dollar.link listed @ Dan, but to no avail in that I haven't received a single inquiry much less offer.

I guess you've heard me say, "If it's to BE, it's up to ME", but without some backing that isn't going to happen.

I consider myself sort of a .LINK walk on who could have been a star, but Nova Registry just doesn't see it that way......SAD!

Finally, i'm blind copying a pretty well respected industry leader that was quoted as saying, ".LINK is no worse than .XYZ", but personally I believe .LINK is far better than .xyz.

Unfortunately, we'll never know."


In addition i copied a few domain friends I made around the world, and here is the response Alessandro from a friend from Italy....you might note I've not heard anything back from anyone at Nova Registry;

Richard

There’s a lot of emotion in this industry, and it’s easy to get caught up on “one thing” … It is important that as investors we diversify our portfolios, own Names that make Sense !

There’s this idea that you should only invest in .com and 90% of “The Domain Industry Club“ will tell you the same thing over and over again like a broken record, BUT the truth is you should invest in good names ^ and understand that what we are all looking to accomplish takes time, effort, and determination ^

2,000,000,000 sites online, you cannot limit all of them to .com much less .net or 10 other extensions … the formation of new industries and new business’ continues to rise - and thus GOOD names become more valuable, I believe this to be true for both .com and combination keyword GTLD examples that match perfectly the left and right of the DOT

I was offered $25,000 for mortgage.loans in 2021 @ the ROTD auction with Monte and I was offered $11,000 for easy.credit at the recent ROTD 2023 auction w/ Monte, meanwhile TeamBank in Germany offered me $1000 even though they are a multi billion dollar company, I received a mysterious offer of $125,000 on DAN for e.credit and the buyer vanished, I had some guy in Monaco offer me 3.2 BTC when BTC was trading @ $55,000 so that he could develop e.credit into an online crypto casino … I bet he feels pretty dumb given where BTC is @ … what is my point, GOOD names receive some attention, and not all the time is that attention going to be “Execution” … In fact more times then not, you are going to run into people who will waste your time,

I have watched the Blue Man Group turn down owning blue.com … I’ve personally talked on the phone with the board of Smith & Wesson; while walking the streets of Venice at night … guess what, they didn’t buy sw.com and neither did Nvidia buy ai.com … I couldn’t sell 77.com to 77Bank in Japan, and Weight Watchers waited for my contract to expire to purchase ww.com … the domain industry is cruel, the priceless opportunity of selling BIG names is a rare thing, patience is the name of the game … Like golf, rare to hit a par much less a Hole In One … BUT damn it feels good when ya do !

1500 .link names, say 10% of that are true quality names Richard @ $1000 bare minimum, that’s $150,000, good $$$ to invest with at the moment. Outbound, outbound, outbound, even if 95% of those leads won’t contact you back …

There was a time when I allowed my emotions to play into the industry, ya just can’t do it, either it works or it doesn’t, and if someone doesn’t understand the value, there is no sense in trying to persuade them, this goes for all names …

And if you invest in GTLDs, focus on exact match keyword combinations,

free.link

direct.link

Instant.link

sex.link (shit, sex.xxx sold for $3M)

big.link

cash.link

soft.link

nice.link

Explain the value, build an audience, and people will then come to you … because believe it or not, there are people in the world with the same ideas as you …

So continue walking tall, put that Big Brain of yours to use, relinquish some of your grand names at a discount, and invest moving forward … if you have that BIG name, don’t sell it, you may want to, but don’t do it, you can put a large price tag on that one BIG name, but that’s it ^ focus on everything else, diversify, and move forward >>>

Best wishes !

Alessandro


Finally, while I still believe in the .LINK extension, without committed support from the Registry and it's owners I just decided to throw in the towel.......VERY SAD!!!

ps. thank you Alessandro(y)
 
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They might care "if" they only knew there was a better/smarter way to grow their registry.
if only they knew! Stupid dumb registries who know nothing
 
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Oh, tell us more about this. You operated a domain name before the domain name system was invented? I think we have another Shiva Ayyadurai here
i guess that went over your head. "If" you were following you'd have know that I started the business named Credit Control Corporation 50 years ago in 1973, and while it's still in business today, the new owners trade using the domain CreditControl.net I doubt you were even born by 1973 anantj,:xf.wink: and it shows
 
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i guess that went over your head. "If" you were following you'd have know that I started the business named Credit Control Corporation 50 years ago in 1973, and while it's still in business today, the new owners trade using the domain CreditControl.net I doubt you were even born by 1973 anantj,:xf.wink: and it shows
You named a company 50 years ago...How is that relevant to the domain field?

Do you have any success stories in the domain field, or at least since the internet has existed?

I have "named" several companies. So do millions of other people each year.

It is not some big accomplishment and it is not all that relevant to domain investment.

Also, it is interesting that CreditControl.net claims the company has existed for over (60) years.

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the new owners trade using the domain CreditControl.net

.... and they don't have $ reserve or flow to acquire CCC .com .

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If there's $ : if they're still in your network: ... edu-contact about the co reposition/expansion/branding without mentioning any names, ... if hot, ... pre-contract and then contact DN sellers, chip-in non-refundable deposit for each DN and letter/pdf co in-detail presentation.

Regards
 
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i guess that went over your head. "If" you were following you'd have know that I started the business named Credit Control Corporation 50 years ago in 1973, and while it's still in business today, the new owners trade using the domain CreditControl.net I doubt you were even born by 1973 anantj,:xf.wink: and it shows
Oh, I wasn't following. Very hard to follow a wundekind prodigy such as you.
Your statement literally was
"Well, i started, operated and named CreditControl.net 50 years ago in 1973"

My age really does not matter to understand the sentence above. You made a short statement that literally says you started, operated AND named CreditControl.net in 1973. I don't need your hand waving and deflections to understand the statement above.
 
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You named a company 50 years ago...How is that relevant to the domain field?

Do you have any success stories in the domain field, or at least since the internet has existed?

I have "named" several companies. So do millions of other people each year.

It is not some big accomplishment and it is not all that relevant to domain investment.

Also, it is interesting that CreditControl.net claims the company has existed for over (60) years.



Brad
Brad....i'm really glad that you actually checked this out. I know you're doing your best to try and discredit me, but i sold my company "Credit Control Corporation" to another company whose name was "General Collections" that had been in business since the early sixties (60 years ago). I guess, because I don't actually know, when they decided to merge the two companies they chose to trade as "Credit Control Corporation" because it was the better name. I'm sure this was your attempt to discredit me Brad......very sad.

Moving on Brad.....if a domain isn't a "name", why in the world does Go Daddy and everyone else in this industry explain it as, "Domain Names"?

As a kid I named my first dog "Bingo". There was even a song titled "Bingo was his name-o" What you have wrong Brad is that most domains are "names" that existed long before the internet, so to try and discredit me because I'm good at naming businesses etc., is like I said.....very sad:xf.rolleyes:
 
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.... and they don't have $ reserve or flow to acquire CCC .com .



If there's $ : if they're still in your network: ... edu-contact about the co reposition/expansion/branding without mentioning any names, ... if hot, ... pre-contract and then contact DN sellers, chip-in non-refundable deposit for each DN and letter/pdf co in-detail presentation.

Regards
Lox.....i'm close enough to the new owners of this company to know they did over 10M in what is called "fee revenue" just last year in 2022. However, that doesn't mean they should spend ten cents on CCC.com even if it were available. You see, Credit Control today isn't an "internet business" like Amazon.
 
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Oh, I wasn't following. Very hard to follow a wundekind prodigy such as you.
Your statement literally was


My age really does not matter to understand the sentence above. You made a short statement that literally says you started, operated AND named CreditControl.net in 1973. I don't need your hand waving and deflections to understand the statement above.
As the Domain Poet:xf.wink: anantj i actually own WordProdigy.xxx but not WundekindProdigy.com. I actually started/founded the business known as Credit Control Corporationin in 1973, and in order for you to "fact check" me I thought I would provide the internet address the company uses today instead of their physical address (sorry for your confusion). If you care to know their physical address I'd suggest you go to CreditControl.net where you can find they're actually located and you might even find their phone number there too.

Finally, i agree that your age has nothing to do with domain intelligence. You're the wunderkid:xf.rolleyes:
 
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i had one .link and it just sold for five figs sooo... not sure we should give up on .link just yet!
 
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i had one .link and it just sold for five figs sooo... not sure we should give up on .link just yet!
Congrats JV....."five figs" I presume that means between 10K and 100K right? No doubt .link is a good extension in my opinion, but there was soooo......little exposure for it, i'm not renewing any of my .link registrations.

If you're able to share anything about your sale like whether it was sold via inbound or outbound it would be greatly appreciated. I just checked with Namebio but didn't see any recent sales in that range. Will it be a reportable sale like through Go Daddy, or was it a private sale? I'm guessing, if you owned just one .link there were some pretty special circumstances surrounding your sale? Anyway, thanks JV!
 
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Congrats JV....."five figs" I presume that means between 10K and 100K right? No doubt .link is a good extension in my opinion, but there was soooo......little exposure for it, i'm not renewing any of my .link registrations.

If you're able to share anything about your sale like whether it was sold via inbound or outbound it would be greatly appreciated. I just checked with Namebio but didn't see any recent sales in that range. Will it be a reportable sale like through Go Daddy, or was it a private sale? I'm guessing, if you owned just one .link there were some pretty special circumstances surrounding your sale? Anyway, thanks JV!
JV posted about it in the reported sales thread. The name before the dot was "bit", and sale price was almost $13k (if memory serves).
 
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JV posted about it in the reported sales thread. The name before the dot was "bit", and sale price was almost $13k (if memory serves).


Nothing special about it either.... just a BIN at marketplace.

If he's dropping all his .link because he couldn't get a special renewal rate.

Maybe it's for the best.

 
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Congrats JV....."five figs" I presume that means between 10K and 100K right? No doubt .link is a good extension in my opinion, but there was soooo......little exposure for it, i'm not renewing any of my .link registrations.

If you're able to share anything about your sale like whether it was sold via inbound or outbound it would be greatly appreciated. I just checked with Namebio but didn't see any recent sales in that range. Will it be a reportable sale like through Go Daddy, or was it a private sale? I'm guessing, if you owned just one .link there were some pretty special circumstances surrounding your sale? Anyway, thanks JV!




Do u have a link portfolio site I could see so I can see what all are dropping?


 
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Do u have a link portfolio site I could see so I can see what all are dropping?
No, like yours my .link domains were listed @ DAN, some priced to sell and some "make offer"......send me a PM and I'll share when I find the time.
 
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What's that saying... "If you find one mouse in your home, there's probably 10 more you didn't find. If you find 10, there's 1000 more..."

Makes you wonder how many other 5-figure .link sales there are that just haven't been reported.

Maybe TPTB (the powers that be) with this extension are so unwilling to cooperate with up-and-comers like OP, because they want him to do the hard-work of uncovering all the gems and putting the ground work, then letting the names drop so they can be listed as registry premiums, so the sales go unreported and the charade can continue...

Maybe it's too soon to give up.

Maybe that's playing into their hand.

Maybe giving up is what they want you to do.
 
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Well, I sold that company 17 years later (1990) for a paltry $250,000 and today it's worth well over 10 million dollars.

Looks like they figured out what was holding that company back, and got rid of it.
 
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What's that saying... "If you find one mouse in your home, there's probably 10 more you didn't find. If you find 10, there's 1000 more..."

Makes you wonder how many other 5-figure .link sales there are that just haven't been reported.

Maybe TPTB (the powers that be) with this extension are so unwilling to cooperate with up-and-comers like OP, because they want him to do the hard-work of uncovering all the gems and putting the ground work, then letting the names drop so they can be listed as registry premiums, so the sales go unreported and the charade can continue...

Maybe it's too soon to give up.

Maybe that's playing into their hand.

Maybe giving up is what they want you to do.




Tbh, .link is used alot. On IG profiles, they have social media aggregate pages with a .link domain where influencers have a list of their other social media handles.

But the primary use I've seen for .link is not for an actual site, but for some kind of link aggregate or some kind of portal to an actual website

 
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Looks like they figured out what was holding that company back, and got rid of it.
Is this the Philadelphia Lawyer attempting to interpret my words? Glad to see you're still following me:xf.eek:
 
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What's that saying... "If you find one mouse in your home, there's probably 10 more you didn't find. If you find 10, there's 1000 more..."

Makes you wonder how many other 5-figure .link sales there are that just haven't been reported.

Maybe TPTB (the powers that be) with this extension are so unwilling to cooperate with up-and-comers like OP, because they want him to do the hard-work of uncovering all the gems and putting the ground work, then letting the names drop so they can be listed as registry premiums, so the sales go unreported and the charade can continue...

Maybe it's too soon to give up.

Maybe that's playing into their hand.

Maybe giving up is what they want you to do.
I really don't give a crap what they (Nova Registry) might want me to do. I do remember however Vaughn Liley .link's GM attempting to discourage me buying "Premium" domains like Divorce.link, Nurses.link and Connector.link. I purchased each of these domains for $118 each and I believe they renew for the same amount?

Regardless, my advice to .link is not to look a gift horse in the mouth when it's NEIGHING at your door:xf.wink:
 
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I have updated my sale of bit in the Discuss and report thread. ... tl;dr: 60 installments instead via DAN at ~$20k.

tbh, taking another look at the domain, it really does fit the .link current landscape. It can be used as a payment portal quite easily for crypto.

I saw drive.link in auctions, and it sounds good... but... I am not going to vie for it. Why? It makes no sense. I tried to google if people driving need links... and there's nothing. the only usage is Google drive links, which is dumb. So pass.

In case any of you don't know, "link" and "linking" is now slang for casual hook ups. So, there's probably some potential there, although how much potential... I'm not even sure.
 
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I have updated my sale of bit in the Discuss and report thread. ... tl;dr: 60 installments instead via DAN at ~$20k.

tbh, taking another look at the domain, it really does fit the .link current landscape. It can be used as a payment portal quite easily for crypto.

I saw drive.link in auctions, and it sounds good... but... I am not going to vie for it. Why? It makes no sense. I tried to google if people driving need links... and there's nothing. the only usage is Google drive links, which is dumb. So pass.

In case any of you don't know, "link" and "linking" is now slang for casual hook ups. So, there's probably some potential there, although how much potential... I'm not even sure.
Thanks JV....to the extent "link" and "linking" are casual slang for casual hookups maybe I should hand on to Connector.link when it renews in January. Sounds like it could make for a good/dating site. What do you think?
 
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Thanks JV....to the extent "link" and "linking" are casual slang for casual hookups maybe I should hand on to Connector.link when it renews in January. Sounds like it could make for a good/dating site. What do you think?
...why would anyone every anywhere ever want to be join a dating all called "connector" nor talk about dating like it's "connector".

People say match, connect, swipe, like, etc...

No one says connector. Connect.link maybe. But the real prize is sneaky.link which is exactly the term for casual hookups.
 
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Oh, this thatnamegay again..

Until a year ago, it was .ONLINE
And before that it was .REALTY
Now it's .LINK!

I declare him the most successful troll on the forum after @alcy because they can get so many people excited and write pages of messages.

I realized once again how much precious sources I saved by ignoring such unnecessary accounts. I hope that one day you will realize how valuable the time and energy you have is and will immediately ignore trolls.
 
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