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We really need to start and keep a thread on each of the big domain auction sites since some are good and some are bad.

Take a peak at the Moniker Auction contract they want you to sign. I own importationdotcom and wanted to list it with them but after reading the contract I was blown away.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO SELL AGREEMENT

THIS EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO SELL AGREEMENT (this “Agreement”) is entered into this ____ day of _____****____, 2008, by and between __________________ (hereinafter referred to as “Seller”), and DomainSystems, Inc, a Florida corporation (hereinafter referred to as “Buyer/Seller Agent”) (Seller and Buyer/Seller Agent each a “Party” and may be collectively referred to as the “Parties”).

WHEREAS, it is the desire of Seller to grant to Buyer/Seller Agent the exclusive right and authority to sell the Internet domain names, assets or web sites listed on one or more of the ADDENDA hereto (the “Name or Names”), in accordance with the terms and conditions contained herein; and,

WHEREAS, it is the desire of Buyer/Seller Agent to use its commercially reasonable efforts to secure purchasers to purchase the Names in accordance with the terms and conditions contained herein; and,

NOW THEREFORE, the Parties do hereby agree as follows:

TERM OF THE AGREEMENT: Seller grants Buyer/Seller Agent the exclusive right and authority to sell the Name(s) for one hundred and twenty (120) calendar days from the date of submitting/declaring one of the Name(s) on the ADDENDA to this Agreement or sixty (60) days from the conclusion of any auction or private sale taking place after the submission/declaring of the Name(s) on the ADDENDA, whichever occurs later (the “Exclusive Sale Period”). The ADDENDA to this Agreement shall consist of, but are not limited to, those items submitted by Seller for selection and acceptance by Buyer/Seller Agent to secure purchasers. This exclusive right and authority to sell period will automatically renew at the end of each term unless Buyer/Seller Agent is notified by Seller in writing within 15 days of expiration that Seller is terminating the Agreement.

Once a Name is submitted by Seller, whether by ADDENDA or otherwise, the Name becomes subject to this Agreement, whether or not Seller is notified that the Name has been selected for the auction or private sale. If, however, Buyer/Seller Agent notifies Seller that a Name has not been selected for auction or private sale, Seller will be permitted to withdraw the Name from submission.

EXCLUSIVITY: During the Exclusive Sale Period, Seller agrees not to use, appoint or engage any person or entity other than Buyer/Seller Agent to act as its agent, sales representative or in a similar capacity with respect to the Names during the term of this Agreement. In the event that Seller sells or markets the Names directly to a buyer or through any person or entity other than Buyer/Seller Agent during the term of this Agreement, Buyer/Seller Agent shall be entitled to receive the Fee (as hereinafter defined).

NON CIRCUMVENTION: In addition to any other rights Buyer/Seller Agent may have, during the term of this Agreement and for a period of two (2) years following the termination of this Agreement, Seller shall not, directly or indirectly:

a.Make contact or attempt to make contact, solicit or attempt to solicit, negotiate
or attempt to negotiate, enter into or attempt to enter into any agreement, and/or transact or attempt to transact any business with any potential purchaser (or such purchaser’s attorneys, agents (other than Moniker), representatives, employees, officers, directors, principals, owners, shareholders, members, managers or any person or entity that is connected, directly or indirectly, with such purchaser) procured by or introduced to Seller by Moniker, except to the extent such contact is through, or with the prior written consent of, Moniker; and

b.Commit any other acts, directly or indirectly, which would affect in any way
whatsoever, circumvent the restrictive covenant stated in subparagraph 3(a) immediately above.

c.In the event that Seller violates the provisions of Section 3(a) or (b), Buyer/Seller
Agent shall be entitled to receive the Fee (as hereinafter defined).

BUYER/SELLER AGENT COMPENSATION:

a. Seller agrees to pay Buyer/Seller Agent a fee for each or any Name sold (the “Fee”) equal to fifteen percent (15%) of the Total Sales Price of such Name that meets or exceeds the agreed upon reserve. Buyer/Seller Agent shall not be authorized to consummate the sale of a Name on Seller’s behalf unless and until Seller has given its written consent to the proposed Total Sales Price for such Name if the reserve price has not been met. Seller understands that Buyer/Seller Agent actually purchases the domain from Seller and then resells the domain/s to the buyer through the sales and auction process.

b. Seller agrees that Buyer/Seller Agent may purchase a Name from Seller during the Exclusive Sale Period in an effort to consummate a sale with another party (For creative financing, special term sales, etc). DomainSystems, Inc./ Moniker.com does become the owner of each domain name in the sales and change of ownership process and through escrow. The Buyer/Seller Agent will not be a bidder at an auction.

c. For purposes hereof, “Total Sales Price” means the sum of the cash and value of any other consideration that a buyer has agreed to pay for the Name, excluding any escrow or finders fee paid by Buyer (as hereinafter defined).

d. The Fee with respect to each sale of a Name consummated during the Exclusive Sale Period shall be paid by Seller to Buyer/Seller Agent (by wire transfer from funds in escrow account).

e. The Buyer/Seller Agent shall have no obligation to deliver any transfer documents until Buyer/Seller Agent has received payment of the required Fee.

5. ERRONEOUS SUBMISSIONS BY SELLER: If Seller erroneously submits a domain to Buyer/Seller hereunder which Seller does not, in fact, own or otherwise have the right to sell, and such error is not discovered prior to the sale of the name by Buyer/Seller Agent, Seller shall nonetheless be responsible to Buyer/Seller Agent for payment of the commission hereunder.

6.REIMBURSEMENT OF COSTS: Buyer/Seller Agent shall bear all costs and expenses incurred by it in connection with the performance of its duties hereunder; provided, however, that Seller shall reimburse Buyer/Seller Agent for any reasonable travel expenses that are expressly pre-approved by Seller in writing and thereafter incurred by Buyer/Seller Agent to attend meetings at Seller’s request.
BUYER/SELLER AGENT RESPONSIBILITIES: Buyer/Seller Agent agrees to use commercially reasonable efforts to secure buyers for the Names during the Exclusive Sale Period. During the Exclusive Sale Period, Buyer/Seller Agent may conduct an auction or private/public sale of the Name via the Internet or other reasonable means. Buyer/Seller Agent agrees that its responsibilities shall be performed in a diligent, competent and professional manner. Seller acknowledges and agrees that this Agreement does not require Buyer/Seller Agent to render services solely to Seller or to devote Buyer/Seller Agent’s entire business time and effort to the performance of its duties hereunder. During the Exclusive Sale Period, Buyer/Seller Agent shall have the right to act as a sales representative, distributor and/or marketing agent for persons and entities other than Seller, including, without limitation, persons and entities who are or who may be in competition with Seller.

SELLER RESPONSIBILITIES: Seller agrees to do the following during the Exclusive Sales Period:

a. Refer all previous, pending and future inquires from brokers, Buyer/Seller Agents, purchasers or others interested in the Names to Buyer/Seller Agent;

b. Provide Buyer/Seller Agent with complete and accurate information regarding Seller and the Names promptly upon request by Buyer/Seller Agent;

c. Assist Buyer/Seller Agent in the marketing and sale of the Name as may reasonably be requested (such assistance shall be at Buyer/Seller Agent’s sole expense unless Seller provides express written authorization in advance); and

d. Provide to Buyer/Seller Agent such other information and data as Buyer/Seller Agent may reasonably request from time to time in order to permit Buyer/Seller Agent to perform its duties hereunder.

REPRESENTATIONS OF SELLER: Seller represents and warrants to Buyer/Seller Agent that it (i) has the authority to enter into this Agreement and (ii) possesses, and has the authority to transfer, good, valid and marketable title to the Name(s). Seller further warrants and represents to Buyer/Seller Agent that: 1) Seller is the sole owner of all right, title and interest in the Name(s); 2) the Name(s) are/is being transferred to Buyer/Seller Agent free of any liens, encumbrances, restrictions, licenses, or security interests; 3) Seller properly purchased and registered the Name(s) without committing fraud or misrepresentation; 4) the Name(s) do/does not infringe the rights of any third party; and 5) the Name(s) have/has not been, and are/is not currently the subject of any litigation, claims, arbitration or other legal proceeding, either pending, contemplated or threatened, nor has Seller received any notice of any such pending items.

ESCROW: Except as otherwise agreed to in a writing signed by both parties, the contemplated purchase and sale of any Name(s) hereunder shall take place pursuant to Buyer/Seller Agent’s escrow procedures set forth in the terms and conditions contained on Buyer/Seller Agent’s website (which are incorporated herein), as amended from time to time.

INDEMNIFICATION: Seller hereby agrees to indemnify and hold harmless Buyer/Seller Agent, its officers, directors, shareholders, employees and agents, from and against any and all loss, damage, liability or expense (including reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs), to which they may be put or which they may incur by reason of, or in connection with, any misrepresentation made by Seller, any breach of any of warranties by Seller, Seller’s failure to fulfill any of its covenants or obligations under this Agreement, or any trademark, copyright or patent infringement arising out of or relating to the Name(s), or in any way arising out of Buyer/Seller Agent’s being a party to, or Buyer/Seller Agent’s performance of, this Agreement, other than through Buyer/Seller Agent’s gross negligence or willful misconduct. The foregoing obligation shall exist only if Buyer/Seller Agent (i) promptly notifies Seller of such claim, (ii) provides Seller with reasonable information, assistance and cooperation in defending the lawsuit or proceeding and (iii) gives Seller exclusive control and sole authority over the defense and settlement of such claim.

JOINT MATERIALS: The Parties agree that all marketing materials developed in connection with the services performed by Buyer/Seller Agent hereunder shall be the joint property of Buyer/Seller Agent and Seller and neither party shall use such materials after the Exclusive Sale Period without the prior written approval of the other Party.

RELATIONSHIP OF THE PARTIES; REPORTING OF INCOME. Buyer/Seller Agent is retained hereunder as an independent contractor and nothing herein contained shall create an employer/employee, principal/agent, partnership or joint venture relationship between the Parties. The Parties agree that Buyer/Seller Agent shall include all compensation it receives hereunder in its own books or account for inclusion on its own applicable tax return, that Buyer/Seller Agent shall be responsible for payment of all income and employment taxes thereon, and that such compensation will not be subject to any offset, employee payroll taxes or other deduction.

CONFIDENTIALITY: Each Party agrees that it shall not disclose the terms of this Agreement to any person or persons except as required by applicable law or compelled by a court of competent jurisdiction. Notwithstanding the foregoing, this Section 12 shall not apply to disclosures made by a Party to its agents, employees and advisors to whom such disclosure is necessary in order to perform pursuant to this Agreement.

ATTORNEY’S FEES AND COSTS: In connection with any litigation arising out of this Agreement, the prevailing party, whether Seller or Buyer/Seller Agent, shall be entitled to recover all costs incurred, including reasonable attorney’s fees, for services rendered in connection with such litigation, including appellate proceedings and post-judgment proceedings.
DISCLOSURES: Seller and Buyer/Seller Agent specifically acknowledge and understand that if either Seller or Buyer/Seller Agent knows of facts materially affecting the value of the Name(s), whether said facts are readily observable or not, Seller or Buyer/Seller Agent, as applicable, shall disclose these facts to the other Party.

NOTICES: Any notice required or permitted to be delivered pursuant to this Agreement must be delivered by facsimile, U.S. Mail, certified or registered mail, or overnight courier, and addressed as set forth below the signature line of the Party to whom notice is being given, or to such other address as the Parties may from time to time designate by notice in writing to the other Party.

GOVERNING LAW: This Agreement shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of the State of Florida, without respect to its conflict of laws provisions. Venue for any litigation arising under, or in connection with, this Agreement shall be in Miami-Dade County, Florida.

ENTIRE AGREEMENT: This Agreement constitutes and represents the entire agreement between the Parties and supersedes any prior understandings or agreements, written or oral, between the Parties respecting the subject matter of this Agreement. This Agreement may be amended, supplemented or modified only upon an agreement in writing executed by all of the Parties. This Agreement shall inure to the benefit of and shall be binding upon the Parties and their respective successors and assigns. If any provision of this Agreement shall be determined to be invalid, void or illegal, such provision shall be construed and amended in a manner which would permit its enforcement, but in no event shall such provision affect, impair or invalidate any other provision in this Agreement.
Headings For Convenience: As used in this Agreement, captions and paragraph headings are provided solely for convenience and shall not be deemed to restrict, limit or interpret the meaning of the text.

COUNTERPARTS: This Agreement may be executed in one or more counterparts, each of which shall be deemed an original, but all of which together shall constitute one and the same instrument. Photocopies, signatures reproduced by mechanical, digital or other means, and/or facsimile transmittal signature pages may be used instead of originals.

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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned have set their hands and seals on the date first written above.

SELLER:
By:
Name:
Title:
Moniker Account #:
Email:
Phone:
Fax:

Address:
BUYER/SELLER AGENT:
DOMAINSYSTEMS, INC.
By:
Name: Monte Cahn
Title President/CEO
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 954-984-8445
Fax: 954-969-9155
Address: 20 SW 27th Ave.
Pompano Beach, FL 33069


ADDENDUM TO EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO SELL AGREEMENT
Declaration / DESCRIPTION Of Assets (if applicable)

My Moniker.com Account Number is:____________


THIS IS AN ADDENDUM TO EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO SELL AGREEMENT (this “Agreement”) is entered into this ___ day of _______, 2008, by and between _____________________ (hereinafter referred to as “Seller”), and DomainSystems, Inc, a Florida corporation (hereinafter referred to as “Buyer/Seller Agent”) (Seller and Buyer/Seller Agent each a “Party” and may be collectively referred to as the “Parties”) whereas, it is the desire of Seller to grant to Buyer/Seller Agent the exclusive right and authority to sell the Internet domain names, assets, or web sites listed hereto of which additional items may be added. This ADDENDUM represents the declaration and description of assets as described hereto.

1.Assets – Tangible:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________
1. Assets – Intangible:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________

2. The liens and or encumbrances and or options to purchase Assets described above consist of:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________

3. Please list all of the owners of the Assets described above?

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________

4. Documents of title ownership / leans, such as a UCC filing, are filed in the facility listed below on the date listed below:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________

5. If patents are listed above, can you provide due diligence they do not infringe on any other parties rights?

Yes - ________________________________________________________________________
No - ________________________________________________________________________

6. Please describe any current or pending litigation, decrees, judicial proceedings or judgments of courts related to the entities, corporate or personal, having interest in the Assets listed above:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
7.How many personnel, doing what, are required to support the Assets listed above on a weekly basis:

A. ________________________________________________________________________
B. ________________________________________________________________________
C. ________________________________________________________________________
D. ________________________________________________________________________

8.If / when the Assets above are sold, how would you foresee the transition process and what if any of the above personnel would contribute to the transition:

______________________________________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________________


9.The monthly gross revenue produced by the Assets above consist of an average of

$_______________ .

10.The monthly net revenue produced by the Assets above consist of an average of

$_______________ .

11.The revenue amounts provided above are verified specifically by *********************_____________________________________________________________, yet it should be

known that: ___________________________________________________________________.

12.It is also important to know that: ________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________________

______________________________________________________________________________

Additional descriptions of items above and supporting documents may be added to this Addendum and become one and part of the whole.

This document is completed by one of the owners representing all owners of the Assets described above and the information provided is true and accurate to the best of my ability.

As owner this is submitted by:

Signed: __________________________________
Title: ____________________________________
Printed Name: ____________________________
Company: _______________________________
Date: ___________________________________
 
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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Looks like Moniker has changed the contract recently, the one I signed last year for one of the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. auctions had the 120-day (w/ 15 day window) exclusivity period, but didn't have the 2-year non-circumvent clause yet. If that was in the contract last year as well as the 20% fee structure, it would be a deal killer.

For the amount of marketing that Moniker puts into the auctions, you'd think that some of the million dollar domains would sell. I was watching the bidding on the those domains and it was interesting to see how some of them got a few million dollar bids, but conveniently stopped short of hitting the reserve. Very interesting.
 
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pixelpadre said:
Supreme court has ruled that domains are in fact real estate though. But I think that was for the purpose of income tax or something. Been a while since they commented on that. Time flies.
http://www.DNF/f26/help-please-2-thread-272351.html#post1355013

http://www.DNF/f26/help-please-2-thread-272351.html#post1355238
 
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xtc2 said:
Looks like Moniker has changed the contract recently, the one I signed last year for one of the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. auctions had the 120-day (w/ 15 day window) exclusivity period, but didn't have the 2-year non-circumvent clause yet.

Out of curiosity, how would Monker know from the thousands of domain names which they are brokering have been circumvented ?
 
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Charley said:
Out of curiosity, how would Monker know from the thousands of domain names which they are brokering have been circumvented ?

They would start with a short list of shady guys ......like you :rolleyes:
 
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If I broker a deal outside of moniker, then let them sue me, what are they going to do?....put lien on my domain name, lol
 
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recluse99

Recluse99 - tell ya what, just sit all the auctions out my friend. I don't think you want to get into a legal battle if you default on your agreement. That would not be good for you or the industry.

when we created this market, we did so with integrity and a very good understanding of the risk we were taking along with the market that had to be created on the fly. Now look at where we are....lots of live and silent auctions, market values tested when the supply and the demand curve are not where true markets are yet, of course we are going to protect our interests which in the long run protects all of your colleagues in this forum. If you don't like the agreement, the commission, the terms, do not participate. I certainly won't force you.
 
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Geez Andy..

mcahn said:
Recluse99 - tell ya what, just sit all the auctions out my friend. I don't think you want to get into a legal battle if you default on your agreement. That would not be good for you or the industry.

when we created this market, we did so with integrity and a very good understanding of the risk we were taking along with the market that had to be created on the fly. Now look at where we are....lots of live and silent auctions, market values tested when the supply and the demand curve are not where true markets are yet, of course we are going to protect our interests which in the long run protects all of your colleagues in this forum. If you don't like the agreement, the commission, the terms, do not participate. I certainly won't force you.

Chief Exec. Officer Monte,

I knew you have been following this thread closely, I'm just amazed how seldom you respond. Your tongue must be awful swollen by now after all the times you have bitten it.

I have agreed with your statement right from the getgo...in fact you are essentially reiterating my own words.... "I dont like the contract, ergo I go somewhere else."

The thing that baffles me Monte, is: you profess this philosophy yet you come here to defend your practices. If you truly believed what you profess, you wouldnt even be following this thread. You are following this thread to defend your medieval approach to conducting buseiness, hoping that the peasants will see your reasoning.

It aint gonna happen your highness. Get with the program! This is strictly business, and if I had a business manager with an ego like yours, he would be pounding the pavement.

Did you hear that Sprint click here announced a new program that would reward their customer service people with bonuses if they could RETAIN current customers who have bailed after a decade of abuse by the very same customer service people. Guess what? The cows have left the barn. The chickens have come home to roost and they are reaping what they have sewn. And farmer Jones isn't a happy camper.

The question now is: "Are your a man of vision or a man of damage control?"
 
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i am just responding and I care enough to do so....always have unlike most other CEO's. at least you all know where I stand. you may not agree but I have been on both sides probably more than anyone regarding these domain sales. no one likes legal agreements....especially exclusive ones. we try to make them as fair as we can.

BTW - those "peasants" as you call them, make the majority of the money on every sale we make....and I am glad they do.

go sell an item trough christies, jacksons, mecue's or sotheby's then come back to me and complain about our agreement, position, or what percentage we earn.

in any case, the agreement and the commissions will continue to change as the market does so this is you notice that it will change again real soon.
 
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pixelpadre said:
They would start with a short list of shady guys ......like you :rolleyes:

Erm .... Don't point your finger me at me.
 
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mcahn said:
i am just responding and I care enough to do so....go sell an item trough christies, jacksons, mecue's or sotheby's then come back to me and complain about our agreement, position, or what percentage we earn.

You must have missed the post earlier where I investigated that one of them mostly charges 2% and never more than 10%. Christies I think...

in any case, the agreement and the commissions will continue to change as the market does so this is you notice that it will change again real soon.

Right...you mentioned commissions were moving up from 15-20 and probably higher.

This thread is hot and has a sticky.........3600 views in 20 days.....I dont know how many new customers you sign up every day.....but I am guessing its not quite 3600 in 20 days.

BTW.....your employees are watching this thread very closely......as you have already surmized. :hearts:

I guess I am supposed to sign my name too.

steve Imhof
REALTOR, Sorrento Florida
352-406-7103
 
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pixelpadre said:
I dont know how many new customers you sign up every day.....but I am guessing its not quite 3600 in 20 days.
Which doesn't matter anyway as long as Moniker is able to meet their own set
targets.

I guess the main complaint here is "why won't Moniker adjust their contract so
me and a couple other guys can do business with them?". They might or might
not depending on things, but only they will decide on their own despite others
telling them how to do their business.
 
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Dave Zan said:
Which doesn't matter anyway as long as Moniker is able to meet their own set
targets.
Right on Bro.

dave Zan said:
I guess the main complaint here is "why won't Moniker adjust their contract so
me and a couple other guys can do business with them?".
You cant see the forest for the trees my friend. I dont want him to change his contract for me............ I just want everyone out there to be aware of the fine print in the Moniker contract before they click away their money and their rights.

I sold my last domain for $30,000 in a private sale. No fuss no muss. Had my money in three days.....full asking price. Of course someone like Monte would force me to set my reserve at a low low price around 500 dollars and pay them 15% and I would have to wait a long time to be paid.

Dave Zan said:
They might or might
not depending on things, but only they will decide on their own despite others
telling them how to do their business.

I defer to my earlier post about SPRINT...please read it again.
 
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Dave Zan said:
Which doesn't matter anyway as long as Moniker is able to meet their own set
targets.


I guess the main complaint here is "why won't Moniker adjust their contract so
me and a couple other guys can do business with them?". They might or might
not depending on things, but only they will decide on their own despite others
telling them how to do their business.

Excellent point, but, don't forget that it did not mater for registerflies and a likes until it was too late.
 
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The point I was making - I was jokingly making a reference to the point where if I put a domain up for auction at Moniker and then a month later decide I want to keep it-fast forward a year later and the domain is doing well and I run into financial problems, and I sell it in a private sale. -AM I SUPPOSED TO TRACK DOWN MONIKER AND SAY HERE'S 20% OF THE SALE THAT I DID ALL BY MYSELF?
 
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mcahn said:
go sell an item trough christies, jacksons, mecue's or sotheby's then come back to me and complain about our agreement, position, or what percentage we earn.

I don't have many domains you would actually care about, that you would remotely consider top tier. But if I did, I would be the one writing the contract, and reviewing which vendors wished to service me. Monte would certainly receive a copy of the contract and have an opportunity to apply for the business. If he does not need the business, he will pass. If the domain is top notch, though, maybe he will bite.

I guess it's all in an individual's perception of their lot in life. Either they let others dictate options to them, even when they hold the cards, or they do not. Monte does not own the top tier domain, you do. If he wants that top tier domain to appear in one of his auctions, well.....what do you think he is going to do?
 
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RogueWriter said:
I don't have many domains you would actually care about, that you would remotely consider top tier. But if I did, I would be the one writing the contract, and reviewing which vendors wished to service me. Monte would certainly receive a copy of the contract and have an opportunity to apply for the business. If he does not need the business, he will pass. If the domain is top notch, though, maybe he will bite.

I guess it's all in an individual's perception of their lot in life. Either they let others dictate options to them, even when they hold the cards, or they do not. Monte does not own the top tier domain, you do. If he wants that top tier domain to appear in one of his auctions, well.....what do you think he is going to do?


THEY as in domain owners or they as in domain auctioneers?
 
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pixelpadre said:

Okay, what I meant was.....either a domainer allows vendors to define the limitations of the domainer's business or not.
 
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Monte, I'm really surprised at how you have handled the remarks that have been made in this thread. Yes, I DO recognize Moniker paved the way for domain auctions. However, at the same time if Moniker hadn't done it, someone else would have.

At the same time, I think it would be more appropriate to start to pay attention to what complaints are and see the legitimacy of them. You have admitted it yourself - there are now competitors. You are an exceptionally smart business man but I really think you are missing the boat here where instead of taking your founding position in this arena and improving upon it for everyone else, you are firming up your own advantage without providing anything additional to those that do business with you.

Look, I posted before 2 problems I had - ones I think are serious. I've forwarded actual BUYERS to Moniker for domains I've had in auction and there was NO follow-through. Do you not see this as at least a slight issue? Especially since the domain went unsold in the auction because of the lack of follow-through? The other was from a buyers side where it takes literally WEEKS after payment has been received by Moniker to have a domain pushed from Moniker's escrow account. I think it took 3 weeks after the last Traffic auction to have domains pushed after payment+agreement were received (and the domains were in Moniker's escrow account). It shouldn't take this long for a simple push to happen.

I'm sure that many of us - myself included -would have fewer problems with the commissions and the terms of the agreement if they were fair all around. However, they truly are not.

As others have pointed out, an agreement would consider to be flawed and otherwise unenforceable if the terms are seen to be mutually one way. Is it that hard on the seller's side to include at least SOME responsibility on Moniker's part to follow up with potential buyers? On the sellers side, is it that hard to put in that domain transfers will be done within a reasonable period of time once they are in Moniker's possession? Here's another case - my business partner bought a domain @ CAC last spring and it took half a year to get the money back from the purchase and several emails. The seller had sold the domain to someone else. Why no responsibilities on the part of Moniker to return funds on uncompleted transaction or that pushes happen within a reasonable period of time?
 
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blackballed

SharonTucci said:
Monte, I'm really surprised at how you have handled


I see you edited your original post sharon......its funny because I assumed that I was certainly on the short list now..... :red:
 
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I use www.BidNic.Net it's free to list and the fees are small on percetage no major long agreements like that one, thats just silly.
 
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Rent2BuyDomains said:
I use www.BidNic.Net it's free to list and the fees are small on percetage no major long agreements like that one, thats just silly.

With all due respect, I do not know how you could compare the two sites.

BidNic.net said:
» SITE STATUS
17 registered users
15 live auctions
0 live wanted ads
1 visitors online

Or is that vrbids.com?:-/
 
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robertjr said:
With all due respect, I do not know how you could compare the two sites.

A newbie in the arena.
 
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When a copmpany raises its fees i m re-evaluating their services and see if they worth it.
Monike's example is about domain registration, handlng, selling and brokering.
The raise is about domain brokering if i m correct so i need to find some good services Moniker provides me to justify the raise.
Until now i never bothered even though i had problems for one domains that made into auction. That domain was a premium tv domain which i stated on the docs i ve sent prior the auction. The last few hours of the auction i was contacted by my "rep"(such a funny word) asking me by email the renewal price because a potential buyer was ready to bid. I saw that email hours after he sent it because of the time difference between Moniker land(its a joke) and Greece and didnt reply on time since auction was already closed. That made me loose a potential sale of mid $$$$(my reserve) for that domain even though i ve stated the premium price in the docs i ve sent before the auction. The same domain got sold for $1000 at sedo when it would have sold a lot more at Moniker auction.
Conclusion is that Moniker auction stills holds a great place for us domainers but the services u provide to us regarding auction cannot justify the fee raise.
 
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Charley said:
A newbie in the arena.

Please dont bloat this thread with unnecessary comments.
 
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pixelpadre said:
Please dont bloat this thread with unnecessary comments.
One could say don't bloat this forum with unnecessary threads. (Yeah, yeah, I
hear ya, don't bloat this thread with unnecessary comments...)

Good for you to have sold that domain name for $30K. That goes to show one
can actually do it themselves...if they're up to figuring it out and taking all its
inherent risks.

But yes, reading the fine print and/or asking questions is important. Plenty of
time to do that before jumping in.
 
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