advice Typo advice to typo newbies

[Domainate.com]

This is all pretty much speaking from my own experience with typo domains...some others may have a different experience with them, and so I wouldn't accept this advice as "fact". It's my opinion on the best way to approach getting typos.

First off, get typos of domains, not words. One of the reasons Pocker.com and Porker.com were able to sell for as much as they did were because Poker.com was an established, fairly high traffic site site in addition to poker being an elite keyword. Keep this in mind when selecting your target to get typos of. The Overture Keyword Selector Tool is often referenced around here as one of the most powerful domain tools, and indeed it is. Put your target domain in here and see how many results it gets. Compare a lot of different target domains you have, and the higher number is the better target for traffic since those are direct type-ins to Overture.

Secondly, though harder to judge, try to target domains in more lucrative markets. Poker is my favorite, because Fabulous pays $8-$20 per click on their poker parking. Casinos are even higher and are another good target. There are many high-paying keywords out there, and a good way for those who have a hard time figuring them out is the Overture Bid Tool. It shows the max bids of links placed on Overture, a PPC-based search engine. The higher the better of course.

So...onto the first revelation: The best typos I have are actually not typos. They are either misspellings or substitute related terms inserted in place of a word in the domain (like putting "auto" in place of "car" in the domain). I have about 30 poker names among which are many misspellings and "related term" names to a couple of poker sites, and it's generally those doing the best.

For the misspellings, target words that could be hard to spell. I was excited to see a commercial for UltimateBet.tv, knowing first that Ultimatebet.com/net was an established poker site and that the .tv was probably new to their arsenal, and seeing that "ultimate" is misspelled a LOT. The misspellings I got for that site have worked out rather well. An example of related term is a "typo" domain I got for DoylesRoom.com/net (another poker site). Doyle Brunson is who the site is named after, and a simple switcheroo of his last name in place of his first and I found myself some available names that have been making me a nice earning.

Some of the other typo names I own are in fact typos though. Again, based on how mine do, if you want to get typos, get missing letter typos or transposition typos instead of extra letter or wrong letter typos. Extra letter typos and wrong letter typos usually involve many situations with 1 single letter of the name. Missing letter involves only 1 situation per letter, and transpositions of letters right next to each other also involves only 1 situation. Don't do more than one transposition or missing letter at a time. Like "music"...search for usic, msic, musc, musi, umsic, msuic, muisc, and musci sooner than typos like mussic, nusic, mudic, etc.

That's all for now. Hope this post helps a bunch of you aspiring typo-ists! If any other people out there doing well with typos would like to chime in, feel free to do so.

 

[Domainate.com]

i talked with fabulous.com about parking sites with them, and they said you have to have 100 or more domains to get started. is this true?

also, who are the best parking sites to use if you only have 1 or 2 names?

by the way, this is a very helpful thread, crooky! also, thanks to xonium?

Fabulous does sometimes accept less than 100, but the portfolio has to be quality names, and not too much less than 100.

Besides them, Sedo and Namedrive are both okay. Sedo is good for the keyword targetting, and you generally can always dump trademark-issue names there whereas most places won't allow them. Namedrive pays out more though I think. I haven't tested Namedrive except for a couple of former proxy sites, and they're paying out about what Fab was on them, which isn't too bad.

 

[irishmat]

i think they let you in with 50+ names now

i got accepted yesterday with 54, with thanks to crooky for helping me out with a contact over at fab

 

[Domainate.com]

i think they let you in with 50+ names now

i got accepted yesterday with 54, with thanks to crooky for helping me out with a contact over at fab

Awesome! Good luck there. I made over $200 in the last 4 days, but it looks like today is slowing down at about $19 so far. I'm hoping for over $1,000 for the month for the first time...I would very much like that!

 

[irishmat]

how many names have you got parked there?

i broke the $100 mark at ND last month which was a bit of a milestone for me

 

[Mels]

I'm not a newbie, but this was a lot of help- thanks!

 

[googol]

crooky, how long did it take you to get to this point? where do you get most of your names? how much do you have invested in names up to this point? thanks a million. this is VERRRRRY helpful.

also, how many names does it take to get to this point? and what percentage of them return good money and what percentage of them were a waste of money?

 

[khasmoth]

I made a tool to help automate this whole process: typogen.com

It follows your recommendations - missed letters and hitting the letter next to the correct one.

Mods, please delete this if you think it's spam, but I feel it's a useful addtion to this topic

Nice tool. but I will appreciate it more if you fix the script for longer than 14 letters domain.

I have this message
"You cannot search for domains longer than 14 characters!"

 

[Domainate.com]

crooky, how long did it take you to get to this point? where do you get most of your names? how much do you have invested in names up to this point? thanks a million. this is VERRRRRY helpful.

also, how many names does it take to get to this point? and what percentage of them return good money and what percentage of them were a waste of money?

First off, I'll talk about only my typo names, since they are what's relevant to this thread. The first one I got was in late summer last year, a typo of GoldenPalace*com (now TM'd but they weren't back then). It had been among the list of expired names I was going through that day, and I knew from discussions on DiscussNames that the payouts for casino/poker clicks were huge on Fab, so I got it. It turned out to be fairly successful for a while, getting about $35 a month, maxing out once at about $70 in a 30 day period.

Since then I've gotten about 60 more poker/casino typos, not including 40 I just purchased a couple days ago (I'm waiting to see how they do as they just recently got categorized by Fabulous). I would say about 20% of the ones I've gotten do well, with most of those being UltimateBet*tv typos when I was fortunate enough to have seen a commercial for it when it was still fairly newly being advertised. The 40 I purchased a couple days ago were also after a commercial. I won't say for which place until I see how the typos do. I wouldn't want to say it so that someone would emphatically run out and get typos that wind up doing squat.

Anyhow, I don't use a program or anything to get the typos, just the advice at the beginning of this thread, which is more or less trial & error on my part with the DoylesRoom.com typos I got, as most of them have done squat, but the few doing well do pretty well.

how much do you have invested in names up to this point?

Speaking for my typos, you could say that the initial $6.75 for the first typo I got funded everything...the amount I got pretty much almost paid for the DoylesRoom typos I got, which pretty much paid for the rest of it self, a bunch of failed Poker4Ever typos and the UltimateBet typos, which have paid for the last bunch of typos I got, and of course I've made more than what I've put in. Otherwise, I guess total money put in would be about $600 or so (half of that being 10 .tv names, the other half being 50 .com/.net mixed)

Speaking for everything else, if I take out all the sales and parking revenue and whatnot I've made, I think it comes to about $20,000 or so over the course of the last 2 and a half years that I've put into domain names. However, after about $23,000 or so that I've made back from sales and parking revenue, I still have about $15,000 worth of the names that I've put in money for. I still own every single name I've purchased from someone else rather than regged, and I've spent over $10,000 purchasing names from others, so that's where most of the expenses are still left, though I'm confident I'll get much more than that back from them.

 

[bigfatchick]

So, would pokrhand.com be considered a typo? or rather...a good typo?

hmmm more like a fumble typo than a mistype - mistypes would be keeping the word length the same.

 

[Domainate.com]

June earnings: $2,357.04

 

[GiddyUp]

.

 

[gr8trfoo]

June earnings: $2,357.04

Not too bad, Crooky!

 

[maverickk3]

Question

What about coffe.us i think it is a great typo...or not?

 

[kroniczero]

thanks for the advice

 

[Domainate.com]

One thing to add: A television commercial does not always mean high traffic is going on already on the site you're getting typos of. I more or less already knew it and got my recent slew of typos (for VegasPoker247) because they on their site that they had an advertising team at the WSOP, so at least IMO they are eager to get their site going, and so I got my typos despite no indications of high traffic (breaking one of my own rules). Granted, I have a whole year to make my money on the names, but at of yet, I've gotten all of 1 click on over 70 names in the 2 weeks I've had them. Another month of OVT came out, and still, no OVT w/ext for VegasPoker247 in June either. Thankfully I have a friend that has met their reps at the WSOP and he says they are looking to get a lot larger, so let's hope! But yea, it's a lot larger gamble to do what I did on those than to go after a site that has traffic indications, and in general that's what I would advise. And ALWAYS make sure they are NOT TM'D.

 

[-TV-]

a tip to find what you can typo ,

1) i get high keywords from ovt
2) make them as domains with EXT
3)check ovt again with EXT
4) select the highest 10K over with extension
5) generate Typos and some home work
6) reg name and watch traffic

what i use , iknow it will sound like if i premot my software , but i am not , i am talking about what i am doing to get $$ oarking and i hope i helped you ( FaxReport typos generator software )

Tv

 

[NameClerk]

TV,

I checked out your typo tool. It looks interesting. Problem is, you don't provide a link or any information on how to buy it.

Rep added to Crooky for sharing this info. :tu:


-Bill

 

[-TV-]

TV,

I checked out your typo tool. It looks interesting. Problem is, you don't provide a link or any information on how to buy it.

-Bill

i am sorry about that i am devlopping the website , just saw this thread and wanted to help aout some typos tips , but i sent you a pm any one wants to buy you can pm me i have a tread in namepros but i dont want to advertise it here as thi sis a typos tutorial

thankx and i am sorry if i offned the owner of this thread sorry again


Tv

 

[Domainate.com]

i am sorry about that i am devlopping the website , just saw this thread and wanted to help aout some typos tips , but i sent you a pm any one wants to buy you can pm me i have a tread in namepros but i dont want to advertise it here as thi sis a typos tutorial

thankx and i am sorry if i offned the owner of this thread sorry again


Tv

No problem dude...no offense taken.

 

[Fleege]

congrats for a great June. You inspire us. I have to say one of my best domains is a typo - So I might get more into them. We'll see..I am way past the whole ethical thing of typos. There was a great classic thread on NP about a year ago that really opened up my eyes to the ligimacy (sp?) of typo domaining. Anybody remember that thread..?

 

[Domainate.com]

Here's a good list of typos of a site with OVT w/ext scores for each...this was posted in Expired names but they are actually expiring names, meaning they will all likely be caught by Snapnames or Pool and enter into auctions (so you're probably not getting any of them for cheap like via a GoDaddy backorder). Anyhow, here's the list along with my analysis:

faceboook.com 2084/ovt - Normally repeated letters are not good typos, but in the case of a double letter, it's proving here to be the best at least in this list.
facebbok.com 772/ovt - Same situation, though is a neighboring letter doubled instead of the o. One of my better DoylesRoom typos is like this as well, DoylesRrom.com. Effective typo when there's a double letter.
fcebook.com 457/ovt - Missing letter, which is always good.
faccebook.com 285/ovt - This typo surprises me, as usually the extra repeating letter isn't good unless near another double, and in this case it's not near the o, AND the o is still doubled. Weird.
facebbook.com 235/ovt - This is one I figured would have had a lot more than faccebook. A doubled letter next to the true double...decent typo.
facebookl.com 208/ovt - Getting into more lower-end typos...extra letter typos are lower-end simply because there are much more of them than missing letter or transposed letter typos.
facebooki.com 173/ovt - Ditto.
facecbook.com 169/ovt - Ditto, though this kind of extra letter is generally more effective than these last 2 just from the habit of typing this pattern.
facebookk.com 164/ovt - As with facebbook.com, this too is a doubled letter next to a double...probably less effective because it's at the end of the name.
facebooik.com 155/ovt - Another extra letter typo...there's tons for each name.
fackbook.com 106/ovt - Here's one that just goes to show if you THINK you know all the typos of a name, you don't.
facrbook.com 100/ovt - Like extra letter typos, wrong letter typos are aplenty, so not as effective as other typos.
facebookc.com 96/ovt - Go figure this one out!
thefacebbok.com 88/ovt - Typo of "thefacebook.com"? Hmm...
facebooke.com 86/ovt - Kind of a habit typo, people who probably know a Brooke that they chat with a lot or something.
facwbook.com 86/ovt - Another wrong-letter typo.
fascebook.com 82/ovt - Another habit typo since sc shows up a decent amount in words.
therfacebook.com 79/ovt - An extra letter typo of thefacebook.
facewbook.com 77/ovt - As you can see, these extra letter and wrong letter typos really get bunched up down here. On average they are less effective because there are so many.
thefaecbook.com 70/ovt - Finally a transposition typo. Normally these are more towards the top, but even try typoing facebook and transposing letters...not easy.
faceobook.com 58/ovt - 2 Typos in one...extra o and transposition.
facebopok.com 54/ovt - Extra letter between two of the same letter...how do these college students ever type things right?!
facdebook.com 49/ovt - Extra letter typo, but interesting to note "cde" is in a straight line.
faceboock.com 49/ovt - Hey, pocker is one of the best typos for poker, and I don't think I'll ever understand why. This typo actually makes more sense since it wouldn't change the sound of the word.
thrfacebook.com 42/ovt - Wrong letter typo of thefacebook.
facerbook.com 40/ovt - Another extra letter typo.
faceabook.com 34/ovt - And another...
facfebook.com 32/ovt - And another...
facebookb.com 31/ovt - Yikes...why?! Perhaps a finger still on the key and jumps the gun?
facebookme.com 30/ovt - Interesting one. Kind of a habit typo with all the ____me.com domains out there.
faceboolk.com 28/ovt - Another extra letter typo...
fafcebook.com 26/ovt - And another...
faceboobk.com 25/ovt - Now this is a habit typo if I've ever seen one!

 

[GiddyUp]

thanks for the list!
I noticed all those when I was checking out Domainers Edge for names dropping w/ OVT w/ ext.
I guess we can assume that its the same owner of all these names since they are dropping the same day, but I ask myself why they are all dropping? It seems like such an investment, and a seemingly profitable one at that, would not be overlooked. Do you think there are any TM issues involved here?

 

[Domainate.com]

thanks for the list!
I noticed all those when I was checking out Domainers Edge for names dropping w/ OVT w/ ext.
I guess we can assume that its the same owner of all these names since they are dropping the same day, but I ask myself why they are all dropping? It seems like such an investment, and a seemingly profitable one at that, would not be overlooked. Do you think there are any TM issues involved here?

If Facebook is TM'd then there are TM issues. However, just because there are TM issues doesn't mean the previous owner may not have been benefitting from these names. It could just be a case where the contact email he had for the names was outdated or something.

I personally wouldn't touch the names myself since I've had okay luck finding typos of non-TM'd sites, but I'm sure there will be a lot of backorders and probably some nice high auctions for the top of the list at least.

 

[NameClerk]

Crooky,

Excellent thread. I've learned a lot and have started getting some decent results thanks to your advice.

Question?

For now, I'm sticking to missing letter typos. Do you have any guidelines for which ones are most likely to be missed?

For instance, are the keys on the outer edges of the keyboard more likely to be missed than home keys? Does anyone really miss the first letter right out of the blocks? Stuff like that? Thanks.

-Bill

 

[Domainate.com]

Crooky,

Excellent thread. I've learned a lot and have started getting some decent results thanks to your advice.

Question?

For now, I'm sticking to missing letter typos. Do you have any guidelines for which ones are most likely to be missed?

For instance, are the keys on the outer edges of the keyboard more likely to be missed than home keys? Does anyone really miss the first letter right out of the blocks? Stuff like that? Thanks.

-Bill

Hey Bill....glad to see this thread is helping you!

As far as missing letter typos are concerned, I would say overall the least likely letter to be missed is the first letter of a name, and then probably the first letter of words that are not the first in the name. Also, I would say consonants are more likely to be missed than vowels, and if there are 2 or more consonants together (or vowels for that matter), there's more likely to be one missed typing. This is evident in my 3 best typos: utimatebet, ulimatebet (typos of ultimatebet), and vegas21cub (typo of vegas21club). That's all I would say for now...I haven't done this enough to give further analysis. Hope this helps!