warning Scam Warning Regarding Seller Presenting as George Dikian: [email protected]

[polymath2022]

$20,000.00 in USDC was sent to someone presenting themselves as George Dikian, [email protected].​

The seller agreed to sell gato.com for $50,000.00. The seller agreed to transfer the domain after $20,000.00 USDC in cryptocurrency was sent, and then the remainder of the funds would be sent after the name was transferred.​

The seller then quit responding to emails and did not send the domain name or a refund.​

Has anyone else had experience with this seller? If so, please share your experiences.​

 

[bmugford]

I will never understand why people are willing to send that much money with no guarantee, especially via cryptocurrency.

That is the downside of decentralized. There is no recourse or chargeback when you are scammed.

Use an escrow service to avoid this when dealing with a random 3rd party.

Brad

 

[IMEZI]

there is a lot of warning alert on it :
1. $50K and seller still using free email
2. not using escrow
3. crypto payment
4. have you try to verify domain ownership through cname or txt records ?

 

[noneisnone]

Email spoofing perhaps
any idea why a transaction this big wasn't done using an escrow service ? just seems odd

 

[wwwulff]

There is a current case involving the same email address [email protected]:

https://onlinedomain.com/2022/07/28...s-26-million-lawsuit-against-domain-investor/

 

[karmaco]

Why would you trust an unknown to you party with 20K in crypto and not use DAN or Epik?

If someone wants crypto for a regular domain its a red flag. Even more so if they don’t want to use an escrow service which protects both parties .

 

[IMEZI]

It seemed like the seller was legitimate based on their whois information... Expensive domains which seemed to be linked to the same whois information... And the seller's level of knowledge about the domain industry... I will not send payment without a legitimate escrow service like this again.

The seller agreed to sell gato.com for $50,000.00. The seller agreed to transfer the domain after $20,000.00 USDC in cryptocurrency was sent, and then the remainder of the funds would be sent after the name was transferred. The seller then quit responding to emails and did not send the domain name or a refund.

I think you should contact TUCOWS.COM, this [email protected] is one of the TUCOWS domain reseller. TUCOWS is the parent company of :
http://opensrs.com/
http://www.enom.com/
https://www.ascio.com/
https://www.hover.com/

if you need TUCOWS contact https://tucows.com/contact/

 

[Dondomainer]

It would be necessary to see the header of the mail, because according to the reverse whois of the email, under :

[email protected].​

are registered a lot of super premium domains, like 43.com, 20.org and more..

check here: https://domainnamescom.com/reverse_whois

I don't think someone with this portfolio is dedicated to doing that.

 

[AEProgram]

What is the back story? You contacted them for a name? You got an email spam? How did this transaction start?

 

[jhm]

One of those no escrow / trust me bro cases. Wonderful

If you're going to be dumb, be prepared to accept the consequences

 

[Future Sensors]

Has anyone else had experience with this seller?

There are a few questions addressed to you in this thread.

Could you take a moment to answer these questions as well?

 

[domainnews]

Even the US government dares not to pay their bills via Crypto currencies，how dare you！

 

[Future Sensors]

4. have you try to verify domain ownership through cname or txt records ?

I like this suggestion.

 

[polymath2022]

It seemed like the seller was legitimate based on their whois information... Expensive domains which seemed to be linked to the same whois information... And the seller's level of knowledge about the domain industry... I will not send payment without a legitimate escrow service like this again.

The seller agreed to sell gato.com for $50,000.00. The seller agreed to transfer the domain after $20,000.00 USDC in cryptocurrency was sent, and then the remainder of the funds would be sent after the name was transferred. The seller then quit responding to emails and did not send the domain name or a refund.

 

[bmugford]

goodluck getting them to reveal details because you can get crime reference number with a phone call in UK.

if they did reveal details people would be leaving that company. they'll only cooperate if police go to them directly or there is a court order, otherwise no chance

Yeah, unless you have a court order they certainly won't reveal that to a 3rd party. If there was an active investigation they would likely reveal it to the authorities though, without being compelled by court order.

I am not really sure there is much recourse unfortunately. It would be an extremely complex investigation, especially because crypto was involved and also be very hard to retrieve the funds.

Brad

 

[polymath2022]

The person who presented themselves as [email protected] also presented the following domain names for sale (I am sharing this list to potentially help protect other buyers):

fzl.com
fzr.com
jcq.com
ncq.com
qcq.com
tcq.com
wqr.com
wqt.com
wqw.com
xcq.com
ycq.com
yty.com
yyt.com
zhp.com
zzf.com
ciq.com
fze.com
iqq.com
ixq.com
izq.com
ocq.com
tiy.com
tyu.com
ucq.com
upy.com
uwx.com
uyn.com
uyy.com
vcq.com
yno.com
zib.com
zzi.com

zzv.com



a-f.com
a-h.com
a-t.com
b-s.com
f-r.com
h-f.com
h-o.com
j-f.com
k-q.com
k-x.com
n-o.com
n-r.com
n-v.com
p-j.com
p-x.com
q-a.com
q-n.com
v-x.com
w-i.com
w-l.com
w-m.com
y-c.com
y-d.com
y-e.com
z-c.com

z-w.com



jq.net
jz.net
kv.net
lq.net
wq.net
xb.net
xd.net
xj.net
xp.net
xq.net
xw.net
xz.net
yd.net
yf.net
yg.net
ym.net
yq.net
ys.net
yv.net
yw.net
yx.net
zj.net
zk.net
zl.net
zm.net
zp.net

zv.net



8fm.com
98cent.com
98cents.com
aatv.com
applepie.com
askamy.com
askj.com
citytalk.com
coolpost.com
dbook.com
dejavous.com
deja-vous.com
dpage.com
ebrother.com
esister.com
exited.com
farmers.org
filmpro.com
fuby.com
gallerie.com
gamz.com
gato.com
goez.com
grinder.com
helpless.org
hopeless.com
hotmilk.com
howtv.com
idiet.com
ifile.com
mechanics.org
mediaplayer.com
orgs.com
picx.com
pocker.com
programm.com
query.org
resume.org
rols.com
selamat.com
sendbox.com
south.org
superball.com
touchtype.com
touchtyping.com
usay.com
usrx.com
webjump.com
winego.com
yayo.com

43.com $12,000,000.00
89.com $25,000,000.00

014.com $1,250,000.00
026.com $1,325,000.00
037.com $1,500,000.00
041.com $1,250,000.00
043.com $1,500,000.00
044.com $1,500,000.00
049.com $1,250,000.00
066.com $1,800,000.00
142.com $1,250,000.00
146.com $1,250,000.00
148.com $1,500,000.00
149.com $1,250,000.00
158.com $5,000,000.00
184.com $1,880,000.00
226.com $2,000,000.00
264.com $1,250,000.00
269.com $1,250,000.00
301.com $1,250,000.00
309.com $1,250,000.00
320.com $1,350,000.00
326.com $1,250,000.00
375.com $1,300,000.00
409.com $1,250,000.00
410.com $1,500,000.00
432.com $2,500,000.00
443.com $1,600,000.00
470.com $1,300,000.00
473.com $1,250,000.00
475.com $1,250,000.00
480.com $1,800,000.00
485.com $1,600,000.00
490.com $1,300,000.00
550.com $2,000,000.00
575.com $1,800,000.00
607.com $1,250,000.00
639.com $1,250,000.00
645.com $1,150,000.00
670.com $1,250,000.00
690.com $1,500,000.00
7-7.com $1,100,000.00
735.com $1,250,000.00
745.com $1,150,000.00
774.com $1,250,000.00
782.com $1,300,000.00
783.com $1,300,000.00
784.com $1,250,000.00
785.com $1,300,000.00
790.com $1,250,000.00
806.com $1,300,000.00
811.com $2,500,000.00
812.com $1,300,000.00
821.com $1,300,000.00
824.com $1,250,000.00
825.com $1,300,000.00
827.com $1,350,000.00
829.com $1,350,000.00
830.com $1,350,000.00
832.com $1,300,000.00
834.com $1,150,000.00
835.com $1,385,000.00
836.com $1,350,000.00
839.com $1,250,000.00
841.com $1,150,000.00
842.com $1,250,000.00
844.com $1,350,000.00
845.com $1,250,000.00
846.com $1,250,000.00
849.com $1,250,000.00
851.com $1,300,000.00
853.com $1,300,000.00
854.com $1,250,000.00
856.com $1,300,000.00
859.com $1,300,000.00
861.com $1,350,000.00
862.com $1,350,000.00
865.com $1,350,000.00
866.com $3,000,000.00
869.com $1,350,000.00
871.com $1,350,000.00
872.com $1,350,000.00
873.com $1,350,000.00
874.com $1,250,000.00
875.com $1,350,000.00
884.com $1,800,000.00
890.com $1,890,000.00
891.com $1,350,000.00
892.com $1,350,000.00
893.com $1,350,000.00
894.com $1,250,000.00
895.com $1,300,000.00
896.com $1,350,000.00
897.com $1,300,000.00
903.com $1,200,000.00
910.com $1,888,000.00
941.com $1,100,000.00
965.com $1,200,000.00

0200.com $650,000.00
0300.com $650,000.00
0400.com $650,000.00
1030.com $500,000.00
1060.com $500,000.00
1070.com $399,000.00
1110.com $500,000.00
1130.com $399,000.00
1140.com $549,000.00
1160.com $549,000.00
1170.com $399,000.00
1180.com $588,000.00
1190.com $549,000.00
1210.com $500,000.00
1218.com $800,000.00
1250.com $500,000.00
1260.com $500,000.00
1270.com $500,000.00
1290.com $500,000.00
1330.com $700,000.00
1350.com $500,000.00
1370.com $500,000.00
1410.com $500,000.00
1430.com $500,000.00
1440.com $2,000,000.00
1812.com $800,000.00
1821.com $800,000.00
1948.com $800,000.00
1970.com $600,000.00
1973.com $600,000.00
1974.com $500,000.00
1976.com $500,000.00
1977.com $500,000.00
1979.com $550,000.00
1981.com $588,000.00
1982.com $500,000.00
1983.com $588,000.00
1986.com $500,000.00
1990.com $1,100,000.00
1994.com $500,000.00
2024.com $3,500,000.00
2700.com $500,000.00
2900.com $500,000.00
3100.com $650,000.00
3300.com $1,100,000.00
3800.com $750,000.00
4200.com $650,000.00
4300.com $650,000.00
4700.com $399,000.00
4800.com $880,000.00
5200.com $650,000.00
5300.com $650,000.00
5600.com $650,000.00
5700.com $650,000.00
6100.com $650,000.00
6300.com $650,000.00
6400.com $549,000.00
6699.com $2,000,000.00
6700.com $650,000.00
6800.com $800,000.00
6900.com $780,000.00
7100.com $650,000.00
7300.com $650,000.00
7400.com $549,000.00
7600.com $650,000.00
7900.com $600,000.00
8012.com $800,000.00
8100.com $880,000.00
8300.com $600,000.00
8400.com $880,000.00
8700.com $880,000.00
8800.com $5,000,000.00
8900.com $898,000.00
9100.com $650,000.00
9200.com $650,000.00
9300.com $650,000.00
9400.com $549,000.00
9600.com $650,000.00
9700.com $650,000.00

117.net $350,000.00
128.net $350,000.00
129.net $250,000.00
165.net $250,000.00
199.net $888,000.00
226.net $688,000.00
265.net $250,000.00
266.net $688,000.00
267.net $250,000.00
270.net $250,000.00
271.net $250,000.00
273.net $250,000.00
275.net $350,000.00
280.net $350,000.00
283.net $280,000.00
285.net $250,000.00
286.net $350,000.00
288.net $688,000.00
290.net $250,000.00
295.net $250,000.00
322.net $350,000.00
324.net $250,000.00
325.net $280,000.00
326.net $250,000.00
329.net $250,000.00
331.net $388,000.00
335.net $388,000.00
355.net $688,000.00
370.net $280,000.00
372.net $250,000.00
373.net $688,000.00
374.net $250,000.00
375.net $350,000.00
377.net $550,000.00
380.net $350,000.00
390.net $350,000.00
395.net $350,000.00
421.net $250,000.00
422.net $350,000.00
426.net $250,000.00
427.net $250,000.00
428.net $280,000.00
429.net $250,000.00
430.net $350,000.00
445.net $288,000.00
455.net $288,000.00
460.net $280,000.00
465.net $280,000.00
470.net $280,000.00
475.net $280,000.00
480.net $380,000.00
486.net $280,000.00
490.net $280,000.00
522.net $388,000.00
523.net $280,000.00
524.net $280,000.00
525.net $380,000.00
526.net $250,000.00
528.net $280,000.00
529.net $250,000.00
550.net $550,000.00
560.net $350,000.00
567.net $550,000.00
570.net $280,000.00
575.net $550,000.00
586.net $280,000.00
620.net $280,000.00
621.net $280,000.00
622.net $388,000.00
623.net $280,000.00
624.net $280,000.00
625.net $280,000.00
627.net $250,000.00
628.net $280,000.00
629.net $250,000.00
636.net $380,000.00
640.net $280,000.00
655.net $380,000.00
663.net $380,000.00
665.net $380,000.00
667.net $380,000.00
670.net $280,000.00
675.net $280,000.00
680.net $350,000.00
688.net $688,000.00
690.net $350,000.00
695.net $350,000.00
723.net $280,000.00
725.net $350,000.00
726.net $250,000.00
728.net $280,000.00
729.net $250,000.00
730.net $280,000.00
731.net $250,000.00
750.net $350,000.00
755.net $380,000.00
771.net $380,000.00
778.net $388,000.00
780.net $350,000.00
789.net $388,000.00
790.net $350,000.00
820.net $388,000.00
821.net $380,000.00
822.net $688,000.00
823.net $350,000.00
824.net $250,000.00
825.net $350,000.00
826.net $280,000.00
827.net $280,000.00
829.net $288,000.00
840.net $350,000.00
855.net $388,000.00
875.net $350,000.00
882.net $688,000.00
884.net $888,000.00
885.net $688,000.00
887.net $688,000.00
895.net $588,000.00
922.net $388,000.00
923.net $280,000.00
924.net $250,000.00
926.net $280,000.00
927.net $280,000.00
930.net $288,000.00
955.net $380,000.00
966.net $550,000.00
975.net $350,000.00
980.net $350,000.00
986.net $280,000.00
989.net $388,000.00
991.net $388,000.00
993.net $388,000.00
996.net $388,000.00

1212.net $360,000.00
1812.net $360,000.00
1948.net $360,000.00
1950.net $250,000.00
1951.net $180,000.00
1952.net $180,000.00
1953.net $180,000.00
1954.net $180,000.00
1955.net $180,000.00
1957.net $180,000.00
1958.net $388,000.00
1959.net $180,000.00
1960.net $250,000.00
1961.net $180,000.00
1962.net $180,000.00
1963.net $180,000.00
1964.net $180,000.00
1965.net $180,000.00
1966.net $180,000.00
1967.net $180,000.00
1970.net $250,000.00
1971.net $180,000.00
1972.net $180,000.00
1973.net $180,000.00
1974.net $180,000.00
1975.net $180,000.00
1977.net $180,000.00
1978.net $180,000.00
1979.net $180,000.00
1980.net $250,000.00
1981.net $188,000.00
1982.net $180,000.00
1983.net $180,000.00
1984.net $180,000.00
1985.net $180,000.00
1986.net $180,000.00
1987.net $180,000.00
1988.net $288,000.00
1989.net $180,000.00
1990.net $350,000.00
1991.net $288,000.00
1992.net $180,000.00
1993.net $180,000.00
1994.net $180,000.00
1995.net $250,000.00
1996.net $180,000.00
1997.net $180,000.00
1998.net $388,000.00
2005.net $180,000.00
2006.net $180,000.00
2007.net $180,000.00
2008.net $250,000.00
2009.net $180,000.00
5000.net $600,000.00
6000.net $600,000.00
8000.net $800,000.00
8900.net $350,000.00

16.org $500,000.00
17.org $250,000.00
20.org $500,000.00
25.org $500,000.00
30.org $500,000.00
32.org $250,000.00
33.org $350,000.00
34.org $250,000.00
36.org $250,000.00
38.org $388,000.00
39.org $250,000.00
40.org $500,000.00
43.org $250,000.00
45.org $300,000.00
60.org $500,000.00
70.org $500,000.00
80.org $500,000.00
85.org $350,000.00
90.org $500,000.00
95.org $350,000.00

142.org $220,000.00
550.org $250,000.00

1812.org $220,000.00
1950.org $250,000.00
1960.org $250,000.00
1965.org $180,000.00
1969.org $180,000.00
1970.org $250,000.00
1975.org $180,000.00
1980.org $250,000.00
1985.org $180,000.00
1990.org $250,000.00
1995.org $220,000.00

 

[AEProgram]

There is a current case involving the same email address [email protected]:

https://onlinedomain.com/2022/07/28...s-26-million-lawsuit-against-domain-investor/

"The Defendants used, inter alia, the reputation of Dikian, a wellknown domain name investor and reseller, as well as a sophisticated, fraudulent online website that posed as an escrow service, Intermediar.com (“Intermediar”), as the linchpins in their scheme to convince VPN that VPN was brokering legitimate transactions between Dikian and Du."

I warned about that escrow company here and some people took their side

https://www.namepros.com/threads/do-not-use-intermediar-com-silverbellxchange-com.1272591/

 

[polymath2022]

Has anyone else had experience with this seller?

 

[Embrand]

There is a current case involving the same email address [email protected]:

https://onlinedomain.com/2022/07/28...s-26-million-lawsuit-against-domain-investor/

Wow, what a case. Some interesting comments by John Berryhill over at OnlineDomain.

Talk about a solid commission VPN was seeking. Too good to be true?:

"After several rounds of negotiation with Dikian, Dikian agreed on an acquisition price of $2,250,000 net to Dikian. After several rounds of negotiation with Du, Du agreed on an acquisition price of $4,400,000 to be paid by Du. VPN’s net proceeds for brokering the deal would be $2,150,000."

"After negotiations on both sides, VPN, Dikian and Du came to terms on the Escrow.com Transaction, with Du paying $12,530,000, Dikian receiving $8,025,000, and VPN receiving $4,475,000."

 

[noneisnone]

the issue is not using an escrow service not the fact that he got paid in crypto

 

[bmugford]

the issue is not using an escrow service not the fact that he got paid in crypto

No, that is part of the issue as well.

There is no recourse. If you are paying via a method where it is anonymous, and there is no chance to reverse it, you should really be even more careful.

This is not like using Paypal, CC, or many other options where there is some recourse when you get screwed.

Though in fairness I would not send $20K to a buyer (via any method), just based on blind faith.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

What is the back story? You contacted them for a name? You got an email spam? How did this transaction start?

I am wondering the same thing.

Brad

 

[IMEZI]

There are a few questions addressed to you in this thread.

Could you take a moment to answer these questions as well?

i think TS were dont have time and energy to answer any of these questions since he/she were quite bussy crying for the looses of $20K.... quite pricey cost of learning... Looking further into TS profile looks like he/she were new member joining Namepros in pursuit for the fraud seller...

 

[tiletalk]

I get emails from someone here messaging using the whois anonymous email contact option trying to sell me CVCV domain and asks for part payment always lol I just reply to them when I am bored and feel lonely to keep convo going

 

[polymath2022]

Show attachment 215369

I think you should contact TUCOWS.COM, this [email protected] is one of the TUCOWS domain reseller. TUCOWS is the parent company of :
http://opensrs.com/
http://www.enom.com/
https://www.ascio.com/
https://www.hover.com/

if you need TUCOWS contact https://tucows.com/contact/

What exactly would you say to Tucows?