poll Travel.Agency what will it sell for

[betthelot]

Travel.agency has to be one of the most relevant new gTLDs and therefore one would expect it to be one of the most valuable. It has 110,000 exact match searches per month on Google.
The question is what would the name now sell for?
I’m going to estimates in today's market it will sell for $7000
I think the downside of this name is that travel agencies use brands and not keywords. Keywords have lost favour over the last few years due to Google's change in the search algorithm.
Interested to see what other members think it will sell for and why and seeing who is the closet.
Also think it will be sold to a domainer and not to an end-user. And at $7000 I think there will be little upside when trying to remarket it to an end user.

 

[betthelot]

would renew it out 10 years right off the bat and forget about it. If prices go up, covered.

so right when the registries have no restriction on price increases as per ICANN policy - unlike .com

 

[DU]

That's what I wanted to know.
And also why sell now, Ali Zandi is a respected domainer with a proven track record and on the face of it seems his sentiment for the new gTLDs is negative to be selling now on Flippa which is likely to get wholesale value rather than outbound marketing to get an end user price.

You think the last 8 months he *hasn't* been trying to sell it?

so right when the registries have no restriction on price increases as per ICANN policy - unlike .com

It's not quite as open ended as you imply with respect to price increases.
There's an evergreen contract that includes price controls in .com? Nice to know!?

 

[betthelot]

You think the last 8 months he *hasn't* been trying to sell it?

He said there has not been much outbound history on it - so yes but small.

 

[betthelot]

There's an evergreen contract that includes price controls in .com? Nice to know!?

Hi Du I see there are strict controls on .com price increases over the next 6 years but I read the ICANN new gTLDs policy/contract in detail and there was no price controls. Have I got that wrong?

 

[DU]

Hi Du I see there are strict controls on .com price increases over the next 6 years but I read the ICANN new gTLDs policy/contract in detail and there was no price controls. Have I got that wrong?

Separate discussion but 6 years starting in 2012. What happens in 2018 is anyone's guess. People can be fairly confident prices will stay lower because the big $$ names are already out and there's no need for huge price increase due to volume of renewals. The gtld changed things (like .co and .me and late ccTLDs) because there was premium registration opportunity. In my opinion its unlikely that a new dot would change pricing from reasonable to much higher. They *could* but it would be marketing suicide as the price increase has to be unilateral and not targeted.

Anyway - that's a different thread This is Travel.Agency which is an ok name but already overpriced imho.

 

[betthelot]

would be marketing suicide

agreed

 

[nvdomains]

Why do people not hold a name even for 1 year after purchase?

 

[mad409]

I didn't think this thread would stay on track, they always derail //. I'm not sure if the OP's intension was really to get an opinion of what this great domain, IMO would sell for, or rather carry on with anti gTLD comments.

I wouldn't mind a thread like this if it was my auction, it's extra promotion, free. But when it could become damaging towards the outcome of this auction then personally I'd request it to be completely removed but again JMO.

 

[betthelot]

Mad409 welcome. Why don't you put it back on track and give your opinion.
The renewal fee was a legitimate point and we agreed unlikely to raise greatly and if worried lock it in for 10 years, it has a bearing on value. So let's leave that and get your thoughts on the name and what you think it will sell for You watch this sector closely be good to hear your thoughts.

 

[asset.domains]

it's bizzare that some people are forecasting prices for 2021, the effect of ta is immediate in google rankings...

 

[asset.domains]

Raindrop.com is like american pie too : )

 

[BrandClub.com]

2021 thats precise. I dont think it will get 40k in my life time

In 5 - 6 years TRAVEL.agency will be a 6 figures domain !!!

 

[BrandClub.com]

In 5 - 6 years TRAVEL.agency will be a 6 figures domain !!!

Sorry, it is already a 6 figures domain name. Majority just don´t realize it, yet ...
New gTLDs like TRAVEL.agency are pure GEMS !

 

[bluebox]

Why would anyone sell their domain on Flippa unless they are desperate for cash?
I assume Ali Zandi has a lot of contacts?
Why settle for a (crappy) reseller marketplace?
"scratches head*

 

[Kate]

A $500 renewal is typically ridiculous but for such a category killer term it's certainly worth it. If I were a travel agent and bought it to build out I would renew it out 10 years right off the bat and forget about it. If prices go up, covered.

It's not a lot as an operating expense, but the prevailing mentality is that a domain name should not cost more than $10. People don't even want to hear your explanations as to why this name is so expensive. Otherwise .tv domains would have sold more if you think about it.
If the potential buyer can be assured that the price will never be raised more than current inflation rate +3% then there is peace of mind, but there is no such guarantee here.

In my opinion its unlikely that a new dot would change pricing from reasonable to much higher. They *could* but it would be marketing suicide as the price increase has to be unilateral and not targeted.

Desperation makes people do stupid things. At some point they no longer care about their reputation Especially if they know they are the end of the journey.
And we have already witnessed clawbacks and price revisions due to the fact that the names were 'incorrectly' priced at inception etc.

 

[Recons.Com]

Present Value (PV) of $500/year annuity at 4% required rate of return (RRR) is:

$500/4% = $12,500. Compare that to PV of .com:

$8/4% = $200.

So, if Someone pays for TravelAgency.com $30,000, he is effectively paying $30,200.

While, if the same guy values Travel.Agency on par with TravelAgency.com, he'd pay $30,200 - $12,500 = $17,700.

Of course, 4% RRR, $30K for .com and that investor would value both on par are all assumptions. Make your own assumptions, repeat the steps and you'll arrive how much you should pay for the name, if you'd be interested.

Ali, good luck!

 

[Eckhart]

It's at $3.6k high bid after only 2 days... with 28 days left it can easily end in low 5-figure.

 

[Fancy.domains]

My guess is that it will go for $12,200

 

[Fancy.domains]

It just passed 4000... This will be interesting!

 

[deez007]

I think this domain will end up being sold WELL in excess of $50k

Let say for example, I owned a leading travel agency turning over a few million dollars per year. Dropping $50-$100k on a superbly brand-able domain like this wouldn't be a tall ask at all.

I'm sure that once some of the larger travel agencies get wind of this sale they could end up starting a bidding war.

I REALLY and sincerely hope that this is the case for Ali and he ends up selling it for a ridiculous amount of money after a bidding war between a few of the Travel Agency giants....

Good luck with your sale mate!

**Yikes, just noticed Ali has over $737k transactions on Flippa in the last 2 years!*** LEGENDARY Dude!!! Nicely done

 

[BrandClub.com]

Present Value (PV) of $500/year annuity at 4% required rate of return (RRR) is:

$500/4% = $12,500. Compare that to PV of .com:

$8/4% = $200.

So, if Someone pays for TravelAgency.com $30,000, he is effectively paying $30,200.

While, if the same guy values Travel.Agency on par with TravelAgency.com, he'd pay $30,200 - $12,500 = $17,700.

Of course, 4% RRR, $30K for .com and that investor would value both on par are all assumptions. Make your own assumptions, repeat the steps and you'll arrive how much you should pay for the name, if you'd be interested.

Ali, good luck!

Travel.agency can be compared to TravelAgency.com but also to Travel.com as the domain keyword is TRAVEL (AGENCY is the extention). In our opinion this domain is less valuable than "Travel.com" but more valuable than "TravelAgency.com" as it is shorther and only one word domain name. Estibot valuation for TravelAgency.com is $290,000 USD so Travel.agency may be worth more than that ... the problem is, people need time to see value in "NEW" oportunities ...
(many years ago when the domain KING bought S_X.com for $47K everybody tought he was crazy; last year when he sold it for $8,888,888.88 USD everybody thought it was a crazy sale )

 

[Recons.Com]

BrandClub,

This is not abot Travel.Agency specifically, but I doubt hacks cost more than .com alternative, just because they are shorter.

Compare

Light.com and Lig.ht
Bet.com and b.et
Casino.com and casi.no
Daily.com and Dai.ly

The .coms are million dollar+ names, the hacks are $x,xxx to low $xx,xxx names.

 

[biggie]

travel agency may be nice keyword if it was .com, especially for type-in traffic


but does travel.agency get any type-ins?

also, would you, if you own a travel agency, want it to have such a generic name, as opposed to a less expensive but more specific name like "cooper travel " or even "bob's travel service"

sure, it may look nice on a card, but for the price, plus renewal fee's, and possible typos to "travelagency.com", is it worth it?

Good Luck!

 

[deez007]

BrandClub,

This is not abot Travel.Agency specifically, but I doubt hacks cost more than .com alternative, just because they are shorter.

Compare

Light.com and Lig.ht
Bet.com and b.et
Casino.com and casi.no
Daily.com and Dai.ly

The .coms are million dollar+ names, the hacks are $x,xxx to low $xx,xxx names.

Keep in mind though that Travel.Agency is not a hack. All the examples you used would basically have no SEO value. So lig.ht will not read as light to Google's spiders. However we know that the new TLD's like club/online are being read by Google spiders as two words..so Coffee.club is being indexed as COFFEE CLUB.

The same would likely apply with Travel.Agency.

 

[BrandClub.com]

BrandClub,

This is not abot Travel.Agency specifically, but I doubt hacks cost more than .com alternative, just because they are shorter.

Compare

Light.com and Lig.ht
Bet.com and b.et
Casino.com and casi.no
Daily.com and Dai.ly

The .coms are million dollar+ names, the hacks are $x,xxx to low $xx,xxx names.

Hi Recons,

Travel.agency is NOT at all a domain hack like the ones you mentioned above ... this is a true KEYWORD+EXTENSION domain name; and this type of domain names (GOOD keyword+extension that make sense toghether will have more value than the matching .COM over the next few years, just need to give them time. I agree with you that domain hacks are less valuable than the .COM domain but this is not the case; a domain hack in a NEW gTLD would be NewZea.land to give an example. I agree this ones are worthless ... but high quality keywords+extension (that make sense together) are true gems between the New GTLDs. Internet is changing and the domain names value will change as well ...