.mobi .mobi may be the biggest hoax in history...

[movingconcierge]

It just dawned on me that .mobi may be the biggest, most elaborate and well-funded, most contrived, well-thought out, bought into, successful and longest living hoax in history.

With all the major corporations, police stations, cell phone companies, search engines, et al. being swindled and tricked hourly, the ramifications are going to be huge!

It is going to be years and years before we get the full scope of the grift.

That damn .mobi :p

 

[-REECE-]

I knew it was a joke, coming from you

Quite honestly, it would be hard for anyone to say .mobi doesn't stand a fighting chance with all the good news we've had lately.

I'm still skeptical about whether it will be "another dotcom-like" extension, but with everything I've been seeing lately, it continues to be reinforced that quality generics will hold value, something which really can't be said about 90%+ of the extensions out there.

 

[gou]

I was thinking Enron when I saw the thread title. :D

 

[Jeff]

There's very little you haven't stated repeatedly in your posts, Jeff, but that doesn't make them true.

Mobile browsing in the U.S. is just getting underway, and very slowly. Saying MOBI is failing is akin to expecting a horse to win a race when the racetrack hasn't even finished being built.

Once again, in my view, you're getting carried away with your emotions ... I'm simply offering OPINIONS, just like everyone else here. Also, I never stated, "Saying MOBI is failing ... ". :gl:
Thank you, friend.

That's what I'm primarily interested in knowing -- the nature of their "backing".

:bingo:

I just listened to the pocast of Neil Edwards, CEO of .MOBI ... and unless I had further troubles with the actual podcast itself, he did not elaborate at all on the "backers" ... and, specifically, the nature of the backings, IMHO. He repeatedly stated, "That's a good question" ... but then failed to elaborate or go into specifics. If anything, it should really scare the bejeepers out of the loyalists here ... as he seemed to have no real sense of urgency, wild claims with regard to numbers of "developed .MOBI sites", and a noticeable failure to acknowledge the many shortcomings with the extension (above all, the obvious race against time)! :imho:

Also, he had a clear line in the sand with respect to the .TV, as well! :yell:
Just my two sense.
-Jeff

 

[S-L-O-W]

no one can take a joke...every one has to use this as a pulpit to stroke their own ego...

I was making a joke and the critics just ate it up with a lap lap lap... COMPLETELY ignoring the less than subtle sarcasm that plagues their posts so funny you gotta know who was first in line...that's right - This message is hidden because Jeff is on your ignore list.

Circa1850 has the only genuine response to my post:

I've got your hoax right here, bud.

Uhhhmmm... you have way too much time on your hand my friend... time better spent with the monkey..... people took you post seriously because conscientious domainers think about these things. You may be laughing your ass off now... but someone with an xx,xxx budget might be thinking.. HMMMM... "Am I fooling myself?".... HOOP RAH!!!! a few domainers saw your post/prank.... but you are NOT doing a favor to any of us with this crap. The situation IS real and the money at stake IS REAL... so if you somehow thought this was amusing... then you need to think twice. A lot of people put hard wark and research in domaining and take a gamble on OUR industry. and stuff like this hurts us all despite what extension we support. To you it's a joke.... to a newbie reading this post as a guess, then joing... regging some name- it's not funny one bit.

 

[nombre]

Who would deserve the .mobi Domain ? There are TM's on the same "Brand" but in different countries .... Are you saying the one who reg'd/bought the .mobi domain deserves all the Visitors ?

If the "Big" boys like Google and Yahoo didn't have the .mobi versions of their "Brand" - Do you think for one second they wouldn't Pull any company from their listings (Paid or not) that supported or sold devices and services "Defaulting" to another extension ?

that was the whole point of allowing trademark holders to register first, if they didn't get their name or didn't want it they are out of luck

presumably those that didn't either didn't know about it or decided they didn't care about the mobile space

if delta airlines really wants to be in the mobile space _and if_ mobi catches on, they will have to buy delta.mobi or use a variation like deltair.mobi etc

this is the whole point of the _possible_ value of the mobi extension, _if_ it succeeds there will be no other option in the mobile space, you're gonna have to have a mobi which could make them very valuable

it's also true that any company can have a subdomain using "m" ....

but this won't be as desirable as having a mobi

the real value of mobi and what gives it it's edge is in site design, mobi is encouraging small, fast-loading sites that easy to use...

for people on the go using a cellphone to access the web, speed and usability will win the day

 

[dag]

Once again, in my view, you're getting carried away with your emotions ... I'm simply offering OPINIONS, just like everyone else here. Also, I never stated, "Saying MOBI is failing ... ". :gl:

Carried away? I was just stating that you've said the same things repeatedly in your posts. They're your opinions, and I happen to disagree wholeheartedly with them.

And you're right, you didn't say (directly, anyway) that MOBI was failing...I was reaching back to S-L-O-W's post in referring to that. But since you were defending his statement, I felt it applied.

 

[movingconcierge]

It was a joke of a post laced with ridiculous amounts of sarcasm and if that wasn't enough, it has a raspberry at the end just to clinch it.

Now, if you are anyone else still took it as being anything other than a joke, you need to sharpen up your reading and comprehension skills....of course IMHO

Uhhhmmm... you have way too much time on your hand my friend... time better spent with the monkey..... people took you post seriously because conscientious domainers think about these things. You may be laughing your ass off now... but someone with an xx,xxx budget might be thinking.. HMMMM... "Am I fooling myself?".... HOOP RAH!!!! a few domainers saw your post/prank.... but you are NOT doing a favor to any of us with this crap. The situation IS real and the money at stake IS REAL... so if you somehow thought this was amusing... then you need to think twice. A lot of people put hard wark and research in domaining and take a gamble on OUR industry. and stuff like this hurts us all despite what extension we support. To you it's a joke.... to a newbie reading this post as a guess, then joing... regging some name- it's not funny one bit.

 

[Mark]

no one can take a joke...every one has to use this as a pulpit to stroke their own ego...

I was making a joke and the critics just ate it up with a lap lap lap... COMPLETELY ignoring the less than subtle sarcasm that plagues their posts so funny you gotta know who was first in line...that's right - This message is hidden because Jeff is on your ignore list.

Circa1850 has the only genuine response to my post:

I've got your hoax right here, bud.

I seen your thread was a stab at Sarcasm/Joke - Which is why I marked it "heated" .... You opened this thread - It's in a Discussion section - It will get heated.

I see no one "Stroking" their ego here, Just Discussing the "possibilities" and "What If's" Brought to mind by the Title you chose.

Some more companies have released .mobi sites - Great :tu: I hope it all works out for those heavily invested.


New Catch Phrase for you all :

There are 3 Certainties in Life : Taxes , Death , and .Com :D

 

[Jeff]

no one can take a joke...every one has to use this as a pulpit to stroke their own ego...

I was making a joke and the critics just ate it up with a lap lap lap... COMPLETELY ignoring the less than subtle sarcasm that plagues their posts so funny you gotta know who was first in line...that's right - This message is hidden because Jeff is on your ignore list.

Ignore is fine, absolutely no worries (I have a few notable .MOBI Spammers™ on it myself ... and it's wonderful)! :music:

But, please, Moving ... heed the advice of the Heated Topic / thread -and- please stay on topic:

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Thank you, friend.

They're your opinions, and I happen to disagree wholeheartedly with them.

And you're right, you didn't say (directly, anyway) that MOBI was failing...I was reaching back to S-L-O-W's post in referring to that. But since you were defending his statement, I felt it applied.

Good enough, thank you.
-Jeff

 

[S-L-O-W]

It was a joke of a post laced with ridiculous amounts of sarcasm and if that wasn't enough, it has a raspberry at the end just to clinch it.

Now, if you are anyone else still took it as being anything other than a joke, you need to sharpen up your reading and comprehension skills....of course IMHO

Ouch!! Tim, I do domaining for a living and it seems to me that your focus is on a moving concierge..... I ment no disrespect... simply letting you know, this, like most industry, are impacted, by unsubstantiated comments. Give me the raspberry if you like... favorite fruit... but know this.... you're new to the industry... I have no problem with that... hell, I'm probably younger then you.... I'm younger then my 3 apprentices on NP and "the other board".... there's wealth of knowledge to learn from each other... I learned it the hard.... which you the best of luck my friend! A lot of domainers learn life lessons on these boards... I myself have learned a ton

 

[sags]

:hehe:

Which of your .MOBI's ... will make you reech, Sags? :gl: :music:
-Jeff

Which ones?

Acronyms Jeff,

Untrademarked acronyms that have many uses and deep pocketed end users.

Why you say? Because financial institutions, media outlets, sports channels and corporations love the sound of them. Easy to brand, easy to remember, easy to type into a keyboard. They also look good on their blazers and caps.

ESPN, CBC, CTV, ROB, BNN, CTV, ABC, CBS, NBC, IBM, MSN, TSX, BMW, GM, RBC, AMEX, FOREX, WSJ, FBI, NASDAQ, CTC, FOX, etc.etc.etc.

True, many are trademarked or already registered by the holder but it is also true if you dig deep enough there are others that have a myriad of uses and no trademarks.

I could give you the specific examples for my acronyms but it would be inappropriate on this forum. I will give you one hint for an example though.

Roll up the rim........Jeff.

Regards,

Sags

 

[-REECE-]

Roll up the rim........

:kickass:

 

[Jeff]

Okie. :kickass:

 

[S-L-O-W]

Okie. :kickass:

Damn Jeff!!! Why you have to get them wild up again?

Jokes aside, no one is saying that it IS only that it MIGHT be.... thus playing it on the safe/difersified side is the way to go....

In the history of man there remains only one proven extension and that is the .COM all others remain puppets in the dreams and hopes of emotional .com despots hoping... hoping... and hoping some more.

 

[qO_Op]

GL

 

[circa1850]

I think the most interesting approach I can see to this is who will be on this forum two years from now saying, "I told you so".

I know I won't be. On this forum, that is.

I have read some great threads, articles, and stories lately.

One just this evening in PC world. It is the newer issue. There was an article in there very much in line with a thread started a few days ago about the UMPC's. They were going to be the doom of mobi. I won't go back and rehash that thread.

I am at work so I don't have the mag in front of me. Essentially, the authors of this article were asking, "Why bother? What's the point?". Even with newer design and options in a spruced up mini computer, those testing it found them to be sluggish, not as responsive and incapable of doing many tasks in a timely manner. For $799 - $1000, they expected more. Their main point?

What can these do that the new phones can't? Plus, you can talk on a phone.

As for me, I am buying some great .mobi's. I am also buying some great high traffic .com's. I am diversifying my portfolio, always have been. Why? I just do. I play it like the stock market.

Will mobi fail? Not in the least.

Prove me wrong.

Who will be here 2 years from now saying "I told you so"?

There are 3 Certainties in Life : Taxes , Death , and .Com :D

and number 4 = .cn.

 

[binaryman]

Oh Ye Of Little Faith

 

[S-L-O-W]

Good nite gentleman... it's exactly 1am my time zone and I have a girl friend who doesn't take .mobi for an answer .... will love to see where this post ends up in the A.M you bunch of vagabonda

 

[-REECE-]

Good nite gentleman... it's exactly 1am my time zone and I have a girl friend who doesn't take .mobi for an answer .... will love to see where this post ends up in the A.M you bunch of vagabonda

G'Night

It's just past midnight here and I have the .mobi blues Not going to bed anytime soon with all this fun :kickass:

 

[jeremyp]

There are 3 Certainties in Life : Taxes , Death , and .Com :D

Mark,

Nobody is questioning that.

There is such a defensive posture regarding .Com's strength. It doesn't make sense. It's like defending Wal-Mart when a small line of new retailers start selling high-end specialty products. Wal-Mart and .Com need no defending.

.Com is and will always be king.

.Mobi has a viable shot at being an alternative to .com on the mobile web. Not a replacement by any means... a viable alternative.

Jeremy Padawer
Jeremy.com

 

[-REECE-]

Mark,

Nobody is questioning that.

There is such a defensive posture regarding .Com's strength. It doesn't make sense. It's like defending Wal-Mart when a small line of new retailers start selling high-end specialty products. Wal-Mart and .Com need no defending.

.Com is and will always be king.

.Mobi has a viable shot at being an alternative to .com on the mobile web. Not a replacement by any means... a viable alternative.

Jeremy Padawer
Jeremy.com

Agreed :bingo:

 

[accent]

It just dawned on me that .mobi may be the biggest, most elaborate and well-funded, most contrived, well-thought out, bought into, successful and longest living hoax in history.... :p

I looked inside my computer and I couldn't find a mobi anywhere!!!

Who here has seen even one mobi running around? I laid a mobi trap, used chewed-up .coms and .tvs for bait .... nothing, not a nibble.

I will believe it when science has captured a mobi, live or dead, and studied it properly. Until then it is a crypto-extension.
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)))))SIGH(((((
Neil Edwards could have provided a lot more informaiton, his "thats a good question"s were annoying and claims of development percentages exagerated. But it seemed to me he answered three of the biggest questions on this board - indirectly, but clearly:

What is happening with the premiums/RFPs?
Mobi is moving too slow?
What is the contribution of the backers?

Neil Edwards said that .mobi began as a project of Nokiea in the year 2000. Nokiea had determined then, in 2000, that there was a need for standards to enhance the usability of their cellphones and that the best way to do that would be a new domain extension. Nokiea submitted an application to ICANN at that time for an extension (wonder if it was called .mobi?).

The application was rejected, so Nokiea formed a consortium of industry leaders to agree on standards and convince ICANN. Edwards and company work for Nokiea, et al -- they are not promoters who were drinking one night and decided to make .mobi.

So .mobi has been under development for about seven years. With that time scale they do not feel a hurry to release the premiums until they feel the "market indicators" are ripe. The premium names are their trump cards and they intend to play them well. They are working on industry adoption, it is a slow process, Edwards mentioned speaking a few weeks ago to the M50 I think he called it- a clique of the very largest company's chief marketing officers - when I Googled it one site called it the "skull and bones" of marketing, refering to the elite Yale group that includes President Bush.

Mobi has been 7 years in the making, it is PART of the companies listed as backers. It is a delibrate corporate strategy put in place to enhance the value of the corporations' products by creating a easily identified mark that would insure usability of web content by their customers.

 

[gemulder]

Mark,

Nobody is questioning that.

There is such a defensive posture regarding .Com's strength. It doesn't make sense. It's like defending Wal-Mart when a small line of new retailers start selling high-end specialty products. Wal-Mart and .Com need no defending.

.Com is and will always be king.

.Mobi has a viable shot at being an alternative to .com on the mobile web. Not a replacement by any means... a viable alternative.

Jeremy Padawer
Jeremy.com

It's very simple to me; For your mobile site you're using .mobi; It's the only choice making sense!

Bank of America has launched a mobile service for its 20 million online customers, bofa.mobi.

 

[-REECE-]

Bank of America has launched a mobile service for its 20 million online customers, bofa.mobi.

I think we should all put that one in our sigs

 

[italiandragon]

you guys write too much, I can`t leave one day to go shopping that I come back and there are a million of threads aout .mobi

At the end I can`t read everything so I ask what`s this kind of sofa called bofa and what`s happening? Are we millionaire yet ? :bingo: