Everybody wants premium names but check the budgets in domains wanted

[biggie]

just want to bring this up, again

if you want premium names, then expect to pay premium prices


you don't want certain letters or only want specific numbers or want the name to end in "ie" only.....then you gotta pay extra for the extra criteria


you want names with pr, traffic and ppc earnings, you gotta pay extra for those too

also, it's trickery to post that you got $10k budget for the right name, but every offer you make on a qualified submission is only $250

increase the budgets!!!

 

[NameOmnia]

with a threat thrown in if you don't agree to the price.

WHATTTTT?????????

 

[forge]

This has been covered of course, but on the flip side of the coin, many sellers really overvalue their names for the reseller market. I'd say most do (sure, I'm guilty). Then again, that's part of the strategy of selling.

Buyers having to deal with names submitted that don't even come close to their requested criteria is just as big a problem. I recently dealt with this from a very active member of this forum. If it happens again, I won't hesitate to name and shame.

 

[iowadawg]

On the WTB, look at some of the threads and some of the people dumping domains that have nothing to do with what the buyer is looking for.
Or they know the buyer has a budget of say $5,000 and they list a domain that they want $10,000 for.
It is, in a word, a messed up forum!

 

[NameFit]

Love such range $1 - $5000. You should be happy if you get an offer in .

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wanted-domain-name-for-clothing-store-company-outlet.862424/

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Looking for a domain name (.com only) for a clothing company, store.. outlet etc.

Budget is anywhere from $1 - 5,000.
Obviously, I'd prefer the lower the better.. but If the right name came along, I'd be prepared to spend a bit on it.

PM ONLY,
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[Cloud iVape]

pretty cut and dry here. if you say you want a premo. domains, why would you settle for 250$? -- CONTRAdiction , doh!

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*though to self "i need gas." --> gas station, hmm, ill jsut spend a 5$ instead of the 100$ that it needs to fill the tank.. yeah, sounds about right. *Why did i tel the wife i was getting a full tank then? Trickery! (quoted word from above lol)

 

[iowadawg]

Gas station reminds me of the old blonde woman joke.
How can I run out of gas?
I put 10 dollars in last week.

 

[DU]

I think some of you are missing the point of some of those requests.
In most cases a WTB is actually a WTS

 

[iowadawg]

Yes, a WTS for all the people who jump in the threads with crap domains at high prices.

 

[DU]

Yes, a WTS for all the people who jump in the threads with crap domains at high prices.

Not exactly what this cat means

 

[equity78]

@DomainVP you make valid points in negotiations, but when you post a domains wanted thread and you make yourself look foolish or out of touch with the reseller market it can cost you other business.

over the years members here in private have told me they blocked people who posted outrageous pricing, they refused to do business with them on other stuff.

If you want to negotiate, get the best deal that's fine, just don't make yourself look like a fool with" I got $20,000 looking for a LL.com any letter combo is fine."

Now it does work both ways can't be a seller who sees the person said $5,000 budget per name and send a recent handreg at $5,000. Up to $5,000 per name does not mean $5,000 for every name.

 

[DomainVP]

@equity78 I agree.

I personally don't post in WTB, mainly because I stick to looking at the For Sale threads and the listings on the aftermarkets.

Using the term want / need is a rough way to start a negotiation, IMO.

But if you ever do come across someone who is selling a LL.com for xx, make sure you send me a message .

 

[DNFactory2]

Domain wanted thread, "I am looking for a CVCV.com $200 budget" Yeah that's unrealistic.


"Looking for an LLL.com no Q,Z,X or V $5,000 budget" Again not reasonable at wholesale.

Not true: XEQE.COM sold(along with 2 other LLLL.com's) for $222 last month

Shane Warne bought an LLL.com on Sedo for $3,000 last year

Dont let people tell you things are impossible.
Although these type of sales are not common "seek and you shall find"

 

[vivaldi]

just want to bring this up, again

if you want premium names, then expect to pay premium prices


you don't want certain letters or only want specific numbers or want the name to end in "ie" only.....then you gotta pay extra for the extra criteria


you want names with pr, traffic and ppc earnings, you gotta pay extra for those too

also, it's trickery to post that you got $10k budget for the right name, but every offer you make on a qualified submission is only $250

increase the budgets!!!

It's problem on the other end too. People want gold for almost nothing, at the same time people want to sell shit for the price of gold With as always a few exceptions.

 

[Kate]

Sellers overestimate the value of their domains, while buyers are uneducated.
Both are typically broke

 

[S-B]

Sellers overestimate the value of their domains, while buyers are uneducated.
Both are typically broke

LOL!

 

[biggie]

let's say budget is $1k > $5K

then you state, only paying reseller prices.

is that an intended loophole or what?

and exactly what is the reseller/wholesale price, for a premium, a random LLLL.com or any of the many desired categories of domain groups?


maybe the likely-hood of the criteria being met from submissions, at stated budget, should be graded on a percentage probability, that, that specific wanted ad will result in a sale/purchase.


perhaps you gotta raise it ( the mentality, the budgets, the quality, the expectations, etc) to a level, for buyers and sellers alike, where the probability that a deal will be reached, for a greater percentage of the threads created.

imo....

 

[jamesosix]

What I think a lot of people tend to forget is offers are just that and 99% of domain sales have some form of negotiation involved.

The amount of times I have seen people on both sides cancel a potential sale without going back with another offer/price (again, both ways). You get lowball offer? Dont cancel, but go back to the buyer (or seller) and make a new offer...

Just my own observations over time.

 

[S-B]

What I think a lot of people tend to forget is offers are just that and 99% of domain sales have some form of negotiation involved.

The amount of times I have seen people on both sides cancel a potential sale without going back with another offer/price (again, both ways). You get lowball offer? Dont cancel, but go back to the buyer (or seller) and make a new offer...

Just my own observations over time.

Exactly right! I turned a xx offer into a x,xxx sale. It's too easy. If you don't ask you will not receive.

 

[Domainzy]

Not true: XEQE.COM sold(along with 2 other LLLL.com's) for $222 last month

Shane Warne bought an LLL.com on Sedo for $3,000 last year

Dont let people tell you things are impossible.
Although these type of sales are not common "seek and you shall find"

XEQE.com(& 2 others)....The seller refused to honor this listing when the price only went to $222. Negative feedback was given to the seller...

 

[forge]

If the budgets/expectations are wildly unrealistic, then just ignore them. It's not worth getting bent out of shape over.

The talk about "enforcement" or "penalties" for such behavior, however, is just ridiculous.

 

[NameFit]

It is the forum software - it does best what it is supposed to do, that is discussions. Beyond that - I am not sure.

 

[equity78]

If the budgets/expectations are wildly unrealistic, then just ignore them. It's not worth getting bent out of shape over.

The talk about "enforcement" or "penalties" for such behavior, however, is just ridiculous.

You are right you cannot enforce it, things are too subjective and there is no way of knowing, what is true

a) The person really does have $10,000 ready to spend but only for an incredible name they value higher

or

b) Person has no real budget but if they say $100 they know they will get little to no submissions so they make up a bigger budget than they really have.

The other point about negotiating is true as well, Usually it is either the price ignored or a lowball back and no negotiation. If you really like the name you may get a successful transaction with some back and forth on pricing.

 

[NameFit]

Person has no real budget but if they say $100 they know they will get little to no submissions so they make up a bigger budget than they really have.

Truly said, what is the real value of a name, more than half the sellers do not know - because it does not exist - it is all comparisons, and more so buyers do not know. Name selection is more of 'liking' than anything else - so they probably think they may like something that is only $100. They have not seen lot of comparables to get a an idea of the cost. Also they do not want to miss out on higher priced as well. So they keep the range open. Simply put, they want to see what 'all' is out there.

 

[Icenevermelts]

Here is my story.I replied to one thread in the wanted section about a domain that fited that member's criteria. Domain was 18 years old, taken in all extension, huge amount of end users (existing websites with similar keywords) I bought it at auction for high $xxx. This is what I got from the member. He replied like he was least interested in the domain, he told me that domain age doesnt mean nothing and that having all extensions taken also means nothing. Also he told me that it might take years for you until you sell it or maybe no buyer ever will come along so please sell it to me for cheap. I might be the last buyer ever. The member was registered in 2005 or 2006 here on namepros. So shame on all those domain investor pros that try to rip off anybody by lying and using any method possible to provide false information and make seller believe that their domain is worthless.

 

[gdndd]

We are sometime having weird situations...

I had this guy who contacted me via my parking page... with an offer of 500$ for one of my domain ...

I played the game, said that I was expecting a little more, with a lot of diplomacy ... The guy was ok for 600$ ... then he asked me if I had other domains with the same specific keyword (as the one he asked for)... Said Yes, four others... He asked for a price... Said, same price for each, then a total of 3K for these 5 domains (so 600$ for each).

Then, from nowhere, the guy said that I was a silly capitalist, making money with domains, blablabla... and said he won't buy them ... WTF ?? This guy is from France... It's the third time that i'm having this kind of situation, exclusively and only with french.

I told the guy (as a joke): "Why ? I don't really care if you're a communist, socialist or else (it's your life)... anyway, it's just business... You need this domain and i'm providing you with a good price ... What is the problem ?"

He said: " Communism is as present in France as ignorance in the states. The fact that it has a name does not mean that it’s a good thing. You already know that your job is not something that you can be proud of.
I have a problem with parasitism of the people that really work and produce something."

OMG !!!! I replied: "WOW, Keep calm buddy... Remember that YOU asked for these domains and I don't even know you ..."

Then, nothing...