Looking for Domain Name Developers to Start a Group in 2022

[redemo]

Are you a successful domain name developer or seriously interested in domain name development? I'm looking for highly-skilled domain name developers to start a discussion where can share tips about how to develop domain names for profit in 2022. If you have an established skillset in this area and are serious about making money from your domain name investing (by developing your domain names) then please post a list of your three main domain name development skills. No timewasters please. This will be a public discussion, not private messages. Cheers. My three main domain name development skills are 1> Finding high quality local (C.C.T.L.D.) domain names to use for website development 2 > Coming up with profitable traffic and product strategies 3 > Creating websites which get a lot of local traffic from search engines.

 

[karmaco]

What biggie was trying to tell you is you can post your thread in the appropriate section below. Not sure why that isn’t sufficient.

https://www.namepros.com/forums/web-development-and-server-administration.28/

 

[barefoottech]

Would be interested in how you view about one vs the other @Corey from perspective of a domainer/developer using a CMS. I realize that may not be a simple question to answer. Thanks.

As Corey's lead developer partner and having developed since 2004 over 10,000 Joomla! & 2,000 wordpress minisites I have observed the lollowing:-
Joomla! is more flexible and adaptable, but Joomla! is top heavy with files. Often you run out of available file handles on hosting before you run out of disk space. cPanel has limits that can't be over-ridden.
Wordpress is a lot more mature than it was 5 years ago, themes are flexible, widgets have improved. Security is greatly improved. Better for the domainer than Joomla! if they have little software skills.


Overall I still prefer Joomla!, but Wordpress is more accessible , more secure and has a better updating system.

 

[biggie]

Just to be clear. The objective of this thread is to convince @Alfa Mod Team that enough interest is present to create a section within the Domain Name Monetization section called " Developing Domain Names for Profit " which is not about parking domain names but about creating websites and monetising those websites (primarily with advertisements). The aim of such a thread is to help domain name investors to share and learn skills which help us to actively aim to make a profit in 2022 from domain name purchases/investments, through website development.

Hi

looks like you have an "objective" and an "aim"

still, the section below appears to best place for it.

https://www.namepros.com/forums/website-and-development-discussion.301/

imo....

 

[mr-x]

... do you know why do web sites get excluded from archive dot org? Anyhow I think a local version of this website can be developed for low cost and on an available / un-registered domain name. I'm not saying a copy, I mean a better version. The S.E.O. for this website is woeful I mean not even H-1- page tags now come on!

blocked by robots.txt,

Justdial.com, Robots.txt

User-agent: *
Disallow: /functions/
Disallow: /webmain/
Disallow: /*/wcdata/

User-agent: Baiduspider
Disallow: /

User-agent: Yandex
Disallow: /

User-agent: Bingbot
Disallow: /

User-agent: ia_archiver
Disallow: /

 

[Lox]

I wonder if there's a Wordpress plug-in which you can use to automatically generate Wordpress web sites to a pre-defined list? @Lox @wilfra @barefoottech @dncafe @mr-x @karmaco @NickB @bmugford

wp-cli.org

on windows hosting, mojoportal.com (one instance can handle multi domains (1000s))

 

[dncafe]

This thread is too broad if you want actual discussion. You need to narrow it down and focus on a specific topic, like: "monetization methods", or "picking your niche" etc.

 

[sgtppr]

You don't need to know how to code to build a website. But it's a big plus. Saves a lot of time if you can code view as well as design view. For me the best C.M.S. to build profitable domain names is on the easiest and most time efficient C.M.S. which is why I'm constantly trying out new platforms. Wordpress does seem to be the simplest but it has a lot of code which slows down page loading times. I don't think Google or users care what the C.M.S. is called so long as the website is easy to use and humans and bots can both accomplish their tasks. Also a C.M.S. must be have all of it's main admin features accessible from a mobile phone. As the world goes mobile that's non-negotiable in my book of magic spells and potions.

It entirely depends on what you want on the user-facing portion of the websites. Is it just static content (text and images) and ads? Then sure, Wordpress or even something simpler is fine.

If you want dynamic content and you want to build these into larger sites and businesses, then at some point custom becomes the only way to do it. Because no matter which CMS you choose, you are going to be restricted by that platform. Try to take your Wordpress site and turn it into a social network. It would be far better to just throw it in the trash and start from scratch than to try and make Wordpress do what you want it to do (and that's exactly what will happen at some point if you start with Wordpress and are successful at building a huge business). That's not necessarily a knock on Wordpress, it's just the nature of building something according to the choices someone else made building their CMS. If you do it yourself, you are the one making those choices and you can craft it to do exactly what you want it to do.

I would start by identifying exactly what user-facing functionality you are going to need, now and in the future. And determining how much flexibility and customization you're going to need. Then see if there is a CMS that can accommodate that.

Start with what you need and want.

 

[mr-x]

It entirely depends on what you want on the user-facing portion of the websites. Is it just static content (text and images) and ads? Then sure, Wordpress or even something simpler is fine.

WP is the most popular cms and runs some of the largest websites. I've seen CRMs, home and vehicle rentals, event management, real-estate and accounting software built on Wordpress. Plugins and events make it extremely flexible and people love it.

If you want dynamic content and you want to build these into larger sites and businesses, then at some point custom becomes the only way to do it. Because no matter which CMS you choose, you are going to be restricted by that platform.

True but most websites are not that large so the choices and compromises are easier.

The best and worse feature of Wordpress is the plugin in system; the trade off is flexibility for security. Inexperienced people install plugins to avoid hiring someone and create different problems.

Try to take your Wordpress site and turn it into a social network. It would be far better to just throw it in the trash and start from scratch than to try and make Wordpress do what you want it to do (and that's exactly what will happen at some point if you start with Wordpress and are successful at building a huge business). That's not necessarily a knock on Wordpress, it's just the nature of building something according to the choices someone else made building their CMS. If you do it yourself, you are the one making those choices and you can craft it to do exactly what you want it to do.

Most people don't need enterprise software. Wordpress can easily scale to 10 of thousands of accounts with hundreds of thousands of pages.

A lot of large businesses run on wordpress and it is a better choice for the average eCommerce shop or car dealership than Wix, Squarspace, weebly, etc.

I would start by identifying exactly what user-facing functionality you are going to need, now and in the future. And determining how much flexibility and customization you're going to need. Then see if there is a CMS that can accommodate that.

Start with what you need and want.

Wordpress is cheap to start with, there is an abundance of documentation, how-to's and experienced people which makes it a good choice for most small businesses.

 

[mr-x]

And yet no reputable technology company uses Wordpress in any capacity, even for their company blog.

I specifically said I wasn't criticizing Wordpress in an attempt to not get dragged into this sort of subjective argument. If you like Wordpress, that's great. If there is nothing you need Wordpress cannot do, perfect. I don't really care what technology you choose to use.

"If you want dynamic content and you want to build these into larger sites and businesses, then at some point custom becomes the only way to do it. "

https://wordpress.org/showcase/

WP is not enterprise software. I agree with most of what you've said and spent years avoiding WP until I finally decided I would have an open mind and accept it for what it is. Good, user friendly software for small business websites and even large ecommerce websites.

Large user base, good support, inexpensive to customize.

 

[Corey]

I use Joomla & WordPress

Cheers
Corey

 

[dncafe]

Joomla

 

[sgtppr]

Where did 12000 websites come from mate? I am overwhelmed with 50 websites.

Someone in the thread said they have built 12,000 mini sites.

 

[mr-x]

Unless they are using 12,000 different CMS's, the code itself is related. You want to login 12,000 separate times to update your software?

It would be great to know how @dncafe manages his empire, I suspect, like my own server updates are semi-automated.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine. " Huh? What's all that about? @Bob Hawkes do you know why do web sites get excluded from archive dot org?

The most likely reason is that they asked to be excluded. Other possibilities explained below from the Wayback Machine FAQs.

Why isn't the site I'm looking for in the archive?

Some sites may not be included because the automated crawlers were unaware of their existence at the time of the crawl. It's also possible that some sites were not archived because they were password protected, blocked by robots.txt, or otherwise inaccessible to our automated systems. Site owners might have also requested that their sites be excluded from the Wayback Machine.

How can I exclude or remove my site's pages from the Wayback Machine?

You can send an email request for us to review to [email protected] with the URL (web address) in the text of your message.

 

[johnn]

Using Metaverse.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Thanks for initiating the discussion, @redemo.

I agree that really developing and monetizing a site is different, involving different techniques and approaches, from monetizing it via parking or even paid redirection.

I also agree that it is something more domain investors should consider as a possible approach.

I don't have any association with NamePros beyond writing for the blog, and as a happy member of this community, so have no inside view as to what is needed for starting a discussion section. I suspect they get numerous requests and need to be cautious to make sure there is broad enough interest before approving new sections. Which is your purpose in this thread, I guess. Will be interesting to see how many respond.

Look forward to seeing more discussion.

Bob

 

[sgtppr]

Hi @wilfra and welcome to the mix. Can a beginner use Laravel and Vue as a C.M.S. without any prior knowledge of programming or coding?

No, those are programming frameworks. Basically I said I like to use PHP and JavaScript to build things. If you want a no-code CMS, there are lots of those out there. Laravel and Vue could certainly be used to build a custom CMS.

You asked what we can do to build stuff, I can build stuff. Any kind of stuff. Now you ask if no-coding is required. Sorry but that seems like a contradiction to me. You want people who can build stuff without writing any code?

 

[mr-x]

It's like the difference between buying a 20 year old furnished house, only available in one exact location, which can never be modified. But you can pick your own clothes and food. Or picking your own location and building any house you want, with any endless modifications, filled with anything you want, anywhere in the world.

Not much of a choice imo.

The core of WP has been tested by hackers from all over the world. A lot of old code but still under development and regularly updated.

We agree that frameworks like Laravel or Symfony are more flexible and have a better core but require more expertise.

 

[sgtppr]

Hmmmmm..... Might have to disagree on that one mate.

• The White House
• Disney Books
• cPanel Blog
• Inside Blackberry
• BBC America
• Creative Commons
• Mercedes-Benz
• New York Post
• Vogue
• Observer
• Flickr Blog
• Reader's Digest
• Sony Music
• Official James Bond Website
• Obama Foundation
• University of New York
• Georgia State University
• Microsoft News
• TechCrunch
• The Walt Disney Company
• Facebook Newsroom
• Mashable
• The Rolling Stones
• Spotify Newsroom
• Wired
• I.B.M. Jobs Blog
• Toyota Brazil
• Harvard Gazette
• Mozilla Blog
• Usain Bolt
• Etsy Journal
• Reuters Blog
• Wall Street Journal Law Blog
• Time Magazine
• Angry Birds
• Katy Perry
• Official Website of Sweden
• Playstation Blog
• Variety
• A.M.C.
• Yelp Blog
• Renault Groupe
• T.E.D. Blog

Only a few of those are technology companies. But I do stand corrected on the 'even on their blog' part - as some of those are tech companies and they are using it purely for a blogging/news type thing.

I'm going to exit this thread now. I would encourage you guys to go and learn how to code, so you can understand what I mean. Once you have the ability to build whatever you want, you'll also vomit at the thought of using something like Wordpress.

 

[mr-x]

Only a few of those are technology companies. But I do stand corrected on the 'even on their blog' part - as some of those are tech companies and they are using it purely for a blogging/news type thing.

I'm going to exit this thread now. I would encourage you guys to go and learn how to code, so you can understand what I mean. Once you have the ability to build whatever you want, you'll also vomit at the thought of using something like Wordpress.

I've been using PHP since PHP 3. Keep an open mind and lend your experience. No one is putting your ideas down, we're just speaking from a different experience.

 

[sgtppr]

As Corey's lead developer partner and having developed since 2004 over 10,000 Joomla! & 2,000 wordpress minisites I have observed the lollowing:-
Joomla! is more flexible and adaptable, but Joomla! is top heavy with files. Often you run out of available file handles on hosting before you run out of disk space. cPanel has limits that can't be over-ridden.
Wordpress is a lot more mature than it was 5 years ago, themes are flexible, widgets have improved. Security is greatly improved. Better for the domainer than Joomla! if they have little software skills.


Overall I still prefer Joomla!, but Wordpress is more accessible , more secure and has a better updating system.

Anytime I find myself doing something 12,000 times, I think about how I might save myself time by automating that process. Why not build a site generator?

Maybe the answer is someone is paying you $X for each site you develop and you'd be coding yourself out of a paycheck.

 

[Lox]

softaculous.com/apps/

capterra.com/categories

cmsmatrix.org

 

[sgtppr]

How would you go about creating a Wordpress web site generator?

I would Google 'wordpress site generator' and look for technical discussion of it on Stackoverflow and similar sites and go from there. I can't imagine it's that difficult. Probably you write a script and hook it up to a form/admin area and behind the scenes WP is being installed with the info you provide when you click submit.

If I had 12,000 of them, I'd certainly want to control them all in one place, not have 12,000 separate logins. Wiring that part up may not be a trivial task but it'd be a huge time saver in the end, I'd think.

 

[sgtppr]

'I'd google it' is not meant to be a flippant response. That's actually what I would do. Google is the start to most technical problems.