What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[lambo.com]

People should probably ask themselves why Epik, among the most vigilant of registrars, would get such special treatment by the media to portray Epik as safe harbor for hate. It is quite ironic!

Because anti-gentilism and anti-White rhetoric est glace au chocolat du jour.

Persecution is unacceptable and the meta war of the 2020's is here. Some have the freedom and faculties to participate and talk back to the psychowarfare and ops to cuck those vulnerable with subconscious/ conscious original sin and guilt and fueled by maladaptive and incomplete historical narratives.

 

[sonatime]

Food for thought

 

[Rob Monster]

If you want to win over domainers, there are plenty of unsolved issues you could focus on. I think Epik has the potential but refuses to take it home.

You guys should ask yourself, are domainers really the niche you want to cater to?

In case you doubt it, we are minding the store and working hard.

Domainers remains a core market segment for Epik Our software tools, pricing and support organization is still among the best in the industry.

In actual fact, the act of holding the line of lawful free speech did not really slow us down at all. It ended up attracting some notable things:

- BitMitigate and Sibyl systems as acquisitions
- Innovative new investments into tech resiliency and proprietary infrastructure.
- International brand awareness
- Some exceptionally talented executive leadership and strategic advisors

From a domainer's perspective, I think all of these developments are really quite interesting:

- NameLiquidate.com
- DNProtect.com
- Escrow.Epik.com
- DomainGraduate.com
- New private auction features - see the how-to here.
- Masterbucks for payment clearing
- DomainEquity.com for domain lending
- WHOQ.com for registrar-agnostic GDPR-compliant WHOIS as a service

From an innovation perspective, that is just a partial list that is related to domainers, and mostly done in the last 18 months! The full list is here:

https://www.epik.com/about/labs/

The real power of single sign on with a unified cloud wallet is probably still lost on most people, but stay tuned and I believe you will see something pretty useful.

In terms of market visibility, it is worth noting that our Twitter posts give some hint of what is happening behind the scenes in terms of premium domain listings.

For example, the domain Hearts.com went on the market on Valentines Day. It is now in escrow with a very nice 6 figure outcome from a sale generated through effective use of ad networks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1361003374271946758

So, all bluster and rhetoric aside, can you honestly name another registrar bringing more innovation in more areas to the domain economy than Epik?

To be clear, this is not an ego statement. I am delighted when I see others adding value to the domain economy in innovative ways that make the pie bigger for everyone.

 

[DN Playbook]

The assumption is that if you are for free speech you are for freedom of expression. However, if you only support one wing of expression, what does that say? Why does only one wing of speech flock to your platform? If you are truly on the side of free speech, why aren't all wings represented? Think about that.

I challenge @Rob Monster to provide a counter argument to Parler, 8chan, Gab, Daily Stormer, BitChute, Patriots.win, Proud Boys, etc. Go ahead @Rob Monster

 

[lambo.com]

In case you doubt it, we are minding the store and working hard.

Domainers remains a core market segment for Epik Our software tools, pricing and support organization is still among the best in the industry.

In actual fact, the act of holding the line of lawful free speech did not really slow us down at all. It ended up attracting some notable things:

- BitMitigate and Sibyl systems as acquisitions
- Innovative new investments into tech resiliency and proprietary infrastructure.
- International brand awareness
- Some exceptionally talented executive leadership and strategic advisors

From a domainer's perspective, I think all of these developments are really quite interesting:

- NameLiquidate.com
- DNProtect.com
- Escrow.Epik.com
- DomainGraduate.com
- New private auction features - see the how-to here.
- Masterbucks for payment clearing
- DomainEquity.com for domain lending
- WHOQ.com for registrar-agnostic GDPR-compliant WHOIS as a service

From an innovation perspective, that is just a partial list that is related to domainers, and mostly done in the last 18 months! The full list is here:

https://www.epik.com/about/labs/

The real power of single sign on with a unified cloud wallet is probably still lost on most people, but stay tuned and I believe you will see something pretty useful.

In terms of market visibility, it is worth noting that our Twitter posts give some hint of what is happening behind the scenes in terms of premium domain listings.

For example, the domain Hearts.com went on the market on Valentines Day. It is now in escrow with a very nice 6 figure outcome from a sale generated through effective use of ad networks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1361003374271946758

So, all bluster and rhetoric aside, can you honestly name another registrar bringing more innovation in more areas to the domain economy than Epik?

To be clear, this is not an ego statement. I am delighted when I see others adding value to the domain economy in innovative ways that make the pie bigger for everyone.

Imagine if we can get a .com tokenized.

 

[DN Playbook]

The assumption is that if you for free speech you are for freedom of expression. However, if you only support one wing of expression, what does that say? Why does only one wing of speech flock to your platform? If you are truly on the side of free speech, why aren't all wings represented? Think about that.

I challenge @Rob Monster to provide a counter argument to Parler, 8chan, Gab, Daily Stormer, BitChute, Patriots.win, Proud Boys, etc. Go ahead @Rob Monster

Don't run away from this @Rob Monster

 

[Rob Monster]

Food for thought
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Amen there.

You might appreciate this thread from one of the sites for which Epik happens to be a registrar:

https://godlike.com/forum1/message4726568/pg1

Some sites are what I call "messy swamps".

For those who have discernment and patience, these types of sites can be used as sources of fresh perspective regardless of any party bias or religious affiliation.

At the end of the day, curious, healthy and intelligent people communicating with each other in real-time maintains conditions where it becomes harder to propagandize everyone else.

Speaking of book burning, check out this http error code 451:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/error-451-internet-censorship-alert

It was literally established for use with future censorship operations. 451 was a hat tip to Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 novel about bookburning!

 

[DN Playbook]

You are a very sheepish person @Rob Monster

 

[lambo.com]

The assumption is that if you for free speech you are for freedom of expression. However, if you only support one wing of expression, what does that say? Why does only one wing of speech flock to your platform? If you are truly on the side of free speech, why aren't all wings represented? Think about that.

I challenge @Rob Monster to provide a counter argument to Parler, 8chan, Gab, Daily Stormer, BitChute, Patriots.win, Proud Boys, etc. Go ahead @Rob Monster

lmao. You have legacy media and epik doesn't have enough revenue to buy CNN.

 

[bmugford]

I invite you to name another company. Let the people know a specific presently existing organization besides Epik that checks all of these boxes today:

- Registry

We run our own registry software in addition to registrar software. For the time being it is focused on powering ALT TLDs. No decision made on whether to acquire a gTLD or ccTLD, but if someone has a registry, we can power it today. You can see it in action on Epik if you go buy a Us.Tv

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This is done with a second level TLD but it could just as soon power a gTLD and ccTLD as a fully operational registry. The technology is fully mature and commercially operating for registries.

You said that Epik is a registry. That is simply not true.
What you said after just further clarifies that Epik is not a registry.

Did you want a chance to correct your statement?

Brad

 

[branding]

can you honestly name another registrar bringing more innovation in more areas to the domain economy than Epik?

No I can't. But that wasn't the subject being discussed. Like I said, Epik is doing some cool stuff. Would benefit from better PR. It's been a couple of rocky years for you in the media. Might be a good time to start building bridges again.

Edit: this has been discussed before. Usually I'm able to get it fixed by mailing Tony and some people on support get it right but this is getting tiresome to go through each and every time:

Just an example of innovation domainers would be looking for. The 'high' tech stuff is all cool but it's simple things like this that make people decide on their go to registrar.

 

[HotKey]

Food for thought
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Yep, we're in fucked up times, that's for sure. Did it to ourselves though, give credence to many a anonymity voice through digital platforms as if they spoke for the greater good. Too bad the rest of us had a life beyond screens and keyboards.

We've lost sight of what should be taken seriously, and what shouldn't. While Mr. and Mrs. Potato head worry about their gender, as if potatoes give a shit and not to mention there are places on Earth that could use a real potato farm to feed themselves. How about that for a class in school?

Humanity resourcing gone awry.

 

[DN Playbook]

And for those looking for some objective truth about how few of these hate sites are actually on Epik compared to Godaddy, Tucows, NameCheap and others, here is some objective truth:

https://splclist2020.com/

Really? You call this objective? It is a domain and site registered at and built by Epik.

https://www.whois.com/whois/splclist2020.com

https://whois.domaintools.com/splclist2020.com

 

[lambo.com]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1365109248007446528

 

[DN Playbook]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1365109248007446528

Freedom of speech is legal and a basic right. However, if you choose to exercise such a right, you must also accept the consequences. This may include backlash when others find it offensive, lawsuits in the form of defamation (if applicable), and a host of other things both positive and negative. This is the realm of being an adult. As adults we understand that anything we do or say has consequences. Hopefully, as adults, we wield the power of free speech in a mature and wise way. 'Nuff said.

 

[Future Sensors]

Freedom of speech is legal and a basic right. However, if you choose to exercise such a right, you must also accept the consequences. This may include backlash when others find it offensive, lawsuits in the form of defamation (if applicable), and a host of other things both positive and negative. This is the realm of being an adult. As adults we understand that anything we do or say has consequences. Hopefully, as adults, we wield the power of free speech in a mature and wise way. 'Nuff said.

For CyberBunker, their business model didn't work out.

 

[DN Playbook]

For CyberBunker, their business model didn't work out.

Never heard of them. But Holy ****. Looked them up. They offered "bulletproof hosting". Sounds like "resilient hosting".

 

[Future Sensors]

Never heard of them. But Holy ****. Looked them up. They offered "bulletproof hosting". Sounds like "resilient hosting".

We have some history in the Netherlands. I recognize a lot in this thread. CyberBunker were warriors, Rob Monster is a warrior. Time will tell. Hope Epik will flourish. Listen to @DirkS for some good advice.

 

[Rob Monster]

We have some history in the Netherlands. I recognize a lot in this thread. CyberBunker were warriors, Rob Monster is a warrior. Time will tell. Hope Epik will flourish. Listen to @DirkS for some good advice.

Epik never worked with CyberBunker, nor their people. I had not even heard of this story until recently.

For the record, we empower lawfully engaged clients, in line with the US law where we are domiciled. If it is against the law, off it goes. We do enforce court orders. That said, we often defy the demands of intolerant activists, especially those who are being brigaded by people who want to take away God-given liberty.

As for our supply chain, we do make use of bunker data centers, but this is mainly because they are better shielded against EMP scenario and tend to be situated in locations that have almost no seismic activity. Some day this supply chain choice might make a difference for our clients. If so, it will have been worth it.

 

[Rob Monster]

No I can't. But that wasn't the subject being discussed. Like I said, Epik is doing some cool stuff. Would benefit from better PR. It's been a couple of rocky years for you in the media. Might be a good time to start building bridges again.

Edit: this has been discussed before. Usually I'm able to get it fixed by mailing Tony and some people on support get it right but this is getting tiresome to go through each and every time:
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Just an example of innovation domainers would be looking for. The 'high' tech stuff is all cool but it's simple things like this that make people decide on their go to registrar.

Those 60 day locks can be overcome by (1) selling on Epik marketplace or (2) manual override by management.

They are there for a reason, mainly to prevent daisy-chain of fraudulent conveyance of domains that were transferred in error.

We are relatively accommodating in this review. The day you lose a domain by accident, is the day you will appreciate that we actually do it this way. And unlike Godaddy, we are available and reasonable.

 

[sonatime]

Yesterday my observation was that someone woke up this weekend in need of scoring moral points but I'm glad Rob indulged us with his answers. I myself have many days where I ignore everything in life and in the world because there is someone who is taking a stance on free speech and supports this basic first amendment right by adopting it into his business services

"I will need to speak to your manager"

Some users come across as virtue signalling driven and not very genuine in their line of questioning. It would be a drag on my time and energies, reading it is tough enough but here I am

 

[Future Sensors]

Epik never worked with CyberBunker, nor their people. I had not even heard of this story until recently.

Wow, this surprises me. Perhaps it's good that you don't know how this niche market works and has evolved over the last few decades. A fresh start so to say, with new network routers and BGP. Or maybe it's not so good that you don't know about offshore hosting. I said already that they were ahead with technical knowledge, but they were not on the right side. Does Epik have any international ambitions?

 

[Rob Monster]

Some users come across as virtue signalling driven and not very genuine in their line of questioning. It would be a drag on my time and energies, reading it is tough enough but here I am

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True.

I engage sincere and logical people. I avoid the rest. See Proverbs 9:8 for context.

 

[Rob Monster]

Does Epik have any international ambitions?

Almost half of our business is outside of the US already, as is most of our staff. Currencies, payment processors, language coverage, and network routing are all being systematically internationalized. In case you missed it, we have more CDN nodes outside of the USA than in the USA.

 

[Future Sensors]

Almost half of our business is outside of the US already, as is most of our staff. Currencies, payment processors, language coverage, and network routing are all being systematically internationalized. In case you missed it, we have more CDN nodes outside of the USA than in the USA.

Wish you good luck.